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    #1

    I know this has been covered before, but...

    Ebay turbo kits...few questions.

    I'm posting a link, I don't think it breaches the "no Ebay rule because it's not a rare JDM thing that people should search for themselves...this is just an everyday thing that you can find in 2 seconds..

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/PRELUDE-H22-VTEC-...QQcmdZViewItem

    Now...that comes with everything, minus the IC piping...

    I don't plan on running more than 7psi...I just want some more power in my H22 daily driver, not looking for 400whp here...and I wanna run on stock internals...so more likely 6psi even.

    Would this kit be alright? I've never seen an intercooler like that...I think I would have to change it for one with dimensions suited for an Accord anyway.

    Also, as far as piping is concerned...they offer some for 170...but...should I get for the Prelude...or find a separate auction that has some piping for an CB7/F22?
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    you might wanna see what the wastegate is set at to determine what psi you run...thats a nice intercooler, ive only heard one person talk about godspeed intercoolers and they liked them. its a side by side, nothing wrong with it, just a pain to run intercooler piping. get the accord/f22 intercooler piping, prelude piping would require you to modify it. the only thing the kit neglects is injectors and engine management and oil return line...and obviously the downpipe and such. Looks pretty legit though
    Shift_BOOST

    BOOM!

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      #3
      thanks.

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        #4
        ill get in before the naysayers come in..honestly..its hit or miss with these kits..it proabably..no..it WONT last as long as a quality kit wheter custom or package deal..expect anything and everything to go wrong with it..on that hand..ive reserarched and talked to actual owners of these products and they are satisfied..manifolds will and may crack..thats a huge common problem..if your gonna get this kit..be cautious..especially because im assuming you have an h22..its a somewhat mroe delicate motor when it comes to boost..due to its frm material..i suggest getting it but replacing the wastegate..maybe even the turbo..but you must MUST focus on tuning and engine management..

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          #5
          Originally posted by DhN
          ibe cautious..especially because im assuming you have an h22..its a somewhat mroe delicate motor when it comes to boost..due to its frm material..
          common misconception, it's not the frm sleeves that weakens this motor to boost so much as it is the compression and weak ringlands. Don't get me wrong, the sleeves aren't fully capable of what f22s are, because they are a good deal thinner. But thats not what's holding this motor back, its the compression and ringlands. 6psi on a good tune and efficient turbo and the motor should last a good while. But tuning is the problem with that compression, dont make any mistakes lol
          Shift_BOOST

          BOOM!

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            #6
            k, well i don't have money and time to be tuning my car every 2 days so my motor doesn't blow. and i really don't know all that much about what comes along with maintaining an aftermarket, or even oem turbo'ed engine. like...i really have NO time.

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              #7
              Originally posted by 92ex
              common misconception, it's not the frm sleeves that weakens this motor to boost so much as it is the compression and weak ringlands. Don't get me wrong, the sleeves aren't fully capable of what f22s are, because they are a good deal thinner. But thats not what's holding this motor back, its the compression and ringlands. 6psi on a good tune and efficient turbo and the motor should last a good while. But tuning is the problem with that compression, dont make any mistakes lol

              meh i heard the exact opposite...ive heard this from alot of veterans in the h22 game as well..that its not the ringlands its the frm sleeves....thuse no forged pistons

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                #8
                Originally posted by DhN
                meh i heard the exact opposite...ive heard this from alot of veterans in the h22 game as well..that its not the ringlands its the frm sleeves....thuse no forged pistons
                look at any boosted h22 that has gone wrong. now see if its the sleeves that went stray or the ringlands. It's the typical weak honda ringlands, and with h22s copression being 10.6 or higher, it just adds stress to them even more. I'm not gonna disagree with you on the sleeves, they are thin and weak, but at 6-8psi, the sleeves aren't whats holding the h22 back.

                I don't really get what your saying about no forged pistons, so I'll throw this out there, mahle gold series, forged pistons in the stock h22 sleeves.
                Shift_BOOST

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                  #9
                  I've done a lot of research on turbo h22's and you both have valid points...the issue with turboing the h22 is the high compression which can lead to failed ring lands. The cost factor comes into play when people want to drop compression to avoid this problem and use forged pistons. The only pistons I have heard people being succesful with are the mahle gold series with the oem sleeves. Anything besides oem pistons or Mahles will scar the frm sleeves up...So yeah that's also why everyone always says run only 6 psi with the stock pistons, I've seen tons of blown ringlands with higher psi , even on 6 psi I recommend a good tune though lol
                  Last edited by blackice; 09-20-2006, 11:20 AM.
                  Retired 1990 Accord LX Coupe
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                  Originally posted by chillin943
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeathFromAbove
                    k, well i don't have money and time to be tuning my car every 2 days so my motor doesn't blow. and i really don't know all that much about what comes along with maintaining an aftermarket, or even oem turbo'ed engine. like...i really have NO time.
                    Having no time could be a problem. Tuning PROPERLY takes a good amount of time. Unexpected problems cause downtime. Diagnosing problems when they occur means time.

                    IMO, time and extra cash are 2 of the most important things to think about when turbo'ing a motor that wasn't originally meant for it.
                    1993 Prelude S
                    F22A1
                    custom'ish turbo setup
                    180 whp/217 ft-lbs super hot, super humid, super rich, boost falling off at 8psi
                    18psi boost spike = BOOM!!!!!
                    currently being rebuilt

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mullet
                      IMO, time and extra cash are 2 of the most important things to think about when turbo'ing a motor that wasn't originally meant for it.
                      i totally agree, problems will happen~ but it is o so worth it
                      justin
                      My baby laying down some power...

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd_Q8HSIyqA

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                        #12
                        be careful with those kits. a lot of the turbos that come with them are chineese knock off turbos and are of very poor quality.

                        you have been warned...

                        Owner of https://theclunkerjunker.com

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                          #13
                          ive seen an ebay kit turbo totally take a shit and basically break in half after 500 miles...not something i would pay a pretty penny for... like r33 said, youve been warned
                          1993 CB7
                          2001 BB6

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bresk8r87
                            ive seen an ebay kit turbo totally take a shit and basically break in half after 500 miles...not something i would pay a pretty penny for... like r33 said, youve been warned
                            I've seen them last for thousands of miles. It's a risk. And if you buy from ebay you already know that
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