EGR block off, what do you do about the wires?

[Flatline]

cant you add one though kinda like they have when you run fogs ???

yeah. but you would need to find out which wire gives power. and not everyone would think to do that.

[Jon]

If your egr valve was bad to begin with it will still throw a cel even after blocking it off. Go get a chipped p06 or p28.

EGR is in good working order, hell I have two of them. And a chipped ECU is on the way nonetheless so I am doing this more or less for those who want to remove the EGR without having to get a chipped ECU.

just be careful. sometimes when you ground a power you can blow a fuse. and there isn't an inline fuse for it so it's going right to your ECU. so be careful. ill lose sleep if my idea fucks someone's shit up.

I know anything and everything that I do is my fault. It's not like you have a gun to my head forcing me to do this. So if I screw up my car, it's my own fault.

[slick]

I'll try that and see if it can be done without tripping a CEL.

your copying what my sig is....

and how would putting the wires together help not through a cel? i think the egr needs to be there unless you have a chipped ecu

[Flatline]

your copying what my sig is....

and how would putting the wires together help not through a cel? i think the egr needs to be there unless you have a chipped ecu

well his sig is a pic of his intake mani.....


but the idea is that when plugged in, you complete a circuit. when it isn't a complete circuit, the ECU tells you something is wrong (CEL) so if you complete said circuit without the EGR present..... no CEL. basically telling a blind person that everything is okay. but it isn't.


(Not trying to make fun of any blind people reading this. Just simplifying it.)

[lucid]

I have and idea on how to leave it hooked up and keep the engine bay clean... You can cut the valve off near the top and just keep the electrical part and part of the pin from the valve to fool the ECU.
Tap into the egr wires anywhere between where the connector is and the ECU. It would be easiest to do at the ECU as far as the wiring goes, except you'd need to run a vacuum line thru the firewall.
If you don't need the valve in place for the inspection police, you could easily mount it anywhere in the engine bay.

I have paperwork somewhere on fooling the EGR with variable resistors and some other electronics parts, it seems like a complicated PITA to me. Get a P28 or P72 is the real solution. I don't think you guys can tie the wires together or anything that simple, or we'd all know that by now and I wouldn't have found complicated instructions.
I will dig up that stuff if someone electronic savvy wants to take a crack at it...

The ECU senses valve movement only from the EGR valve's top part. The ECU gives the signal that allows engine vacuum to open the valve, and then gets feedback from the valve that it has indeed opened.

[slick]

well his sig is a pic of his intake mani.....


but the idea is that when plugged in, you complete a circuit. when it isn't a complete circuit, the ECU tells you something is wrong (CEL) so if you complete said circuit without the EGR present..... no CEL. basically telling a blind person that everything is okay. but it isn't.


(Not trying to make fun of any blind people reading this. Just simplifying it.)

no i got his friend to make me a plague kind of like his (my sig) now his sig is his plague.

ok so why not put something smaller in between the wires instead of trying to connect a power to a ground

[Jon]

your copying what my sig is....

I still have what your sig is... I wasn't fast enough to get it in the mail yesterday.
I wanted to change my sig to something else, so it's a placeholder for now.

and how would putting the wires together help not through a cel? i think the egr needs to be there unless you have a chipped ecu

but the idea is that when plugged in, you complete a circuit. when it isn't a complete circuit, the ECU tells you something is wrong (CEL) so if you complete said circuit without the EGR present..... no CEL. basically telling a blind person that everything is okay. but it isn't.


(Not trying to make fun of any blind people reading this. Just simplifying it.)

Exactly.

[slick]

im interested to see how this goes since my egr block off valve should be here soon (i hope)

[Jon]

I have and idea on how to leave it hooked up and keep the engine bay clean... You can cut the valve off near the top and just keep the electrical part and part of the pin from the valve to fool the ECU.
Tap into the egr wires anywhere between where the connector is and the ECU. It would be easiest to do at the ECU as far as the wiring goes, except you'd need to run a vacuum line thru the firewall.
If you don't need the valve in place for the inspection police, you could easily mount it anywhere in the engine bay.

That's why I have two EGRs to play with so I can experiment and see if I can't get something (like you explained above) to work.

Yeah if it was a simple as capping the wires off everyone would have done it and this conversation wouldn't be happening.

[keycb7]

found some useful info on EGR
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov2001/techtips.htm

now I know why my cb drive like crap 1500-2000rpm, it almost feels like vtec kicking in after 2500rpm

we need some one to make for us block off plates, like this guys
http://www.custombilletworks.com/products.php
have them make like 20 of them, so they only cost like $10 each, time for group buy

[slick]

the bottom one one page one looks like it would fit our cars

[djcaz_aom]

Use a new gasket, and a chevy fuel pump block off plate. You will have to drill one hole to make itline up.

[Jon]

found some useful info on EGR
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov2001/techtips.htm

now I know why my cb drive like crap 1500-2000rpm, it almost feels like vtec kicking in after 2500rpm

we need some one to make for us block off plates, like this guys
http://www.custombilletworks.com/products.php
have them make like 20 of them, so they only cost like $10 each, time for group buy

Hell if I can figure out how to remove the EGR valve like we are all discussing, I'll contact a few people that have the machinery I'll start producing plates.

[blackice]

rosko from this forum already cnc's them....http://www.roskoracing.com/EGR_Valve_Block.html