If you really want to mess yourself up...

[do2mind]

Has anyone else tried this?

If you really want to mess up your ability to drive your manual tranny CB7, go drive an '03 BMW 325i with a stick shift, then try to drive your stick Accord right afterwards. The clutches are about as opposite as clutches can be.

A friend let me drive her Bimmer maybe a dozen times... every single time I would have a tough time to start in the BMW, then I'd get back in my Accord and couldn't work the clutch.

I'm a fairly "finesse" guy with a clutch, I try to synch it so you can hardly tell I shifted. My mechanic said my clutch looked almost new at 70,000 miles.

But with the BMW, using the same approach leaves you stalled at a stop sign... the BMW just doesn't appreciate finesse. Don't try to "synch" anything, just mash it and go... very stiff pedals, very high/abrupt engage... It forced me to be more aggressive and quick off the line - the smoother I tried to be in the BMW, the worse it got.

[aero]

I didnt try it with a BMW.. but I drove my buddies 02 Porsche GT2 a few days ago, and I stalled the first time because it seemed like it wanted a bit more gas than I was used to. I guess it was the extra power/torque compared to the s2k. Not to mention, the Porsche clutch you are able to push down for like 20" to the floor.

[Mike]

Has anyone else tried this?

If you really want to mess up your ability to drive your manual tranny CB7, go drive an '03 BMW 325i with a stick shift, then try to drive your stick Accord right afterwards. The clutches are about as opposite as clutches can be.

A friend let me drive her Bimmer maybe a dozen times... every single time I would have a tough time to start in the BMW, then I'd get back in my Accord and couldn't work the clutch.

I'm a fairly "finesse" guy with a clutch, I try to synch it so you can hardly tell I shifted. My mechanic said my clutch looked almost new at 70,000 miles.

But with the BMW, using the same approach leaves you stalled at a stop sign... the BMW just doesn't appreciate finesse. Don't try to "synch" anything, just mash it and go... very stiff pedals, very high/abrupt engage... It forced me to be more aggressive and quick off the line - the smoother I tried to be in the BMW, the worse it got.

you would think the luxury inspired car would shift smoother haha

[NAiL05]

I dunno when I drove the older bmw (5 series) overseas it wasnt that bad DUnno if its any different with the newer ones.

[N9netwoAccord]

I've never had a problem, i drive them somewhat often too from my work... I agree it is tricky with the stiff pedals though

[quickangel93]

i started with a 02 lancer, it was ok just clutch was very sensitive. then my uncle gave me his 91 323 that was very easy to drive, and the clutch never died. the accord is going to have a 5spd this winter put into it.

[HondaB18]

It takes some getting use to. Not all cars drive/shift the same way, just gotta find that sweet spot. But after, shifting should be silky smooth.

[accord-racing]

even our cb7s are different I drove a 92 coupe ex and it felt alot different than my 93 ex

[blackice]

even our cb7s are different I drove a 92 coupe ex and it felt alot different than my 93 ex

depends on what clutch you have but also your engagement height. my clutch is super stiff if i put the engagement up high but with a little more play it's pretty easy to push on (i'm running a stage 2 centerforce btw)...check this out http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...=adjust+clutch

[do2mind]

I figured it out! It's a combination of two things...

First, my dad taught me to be very smooth with a clutch by blending the clutch and gas into each other. Second, I'm guessing the flywheel of a BMW is lighter, but the car is heavier. There's two things that keep the engine turning as the clutch starts to engage... the flywheel, and giving it more gas.

So when I did the same revs and medium clutch letout speed that I'd use with my stock CB-7, I'd choke with the BMW because I didn't have that heavy Honda flywheel to keep things moving.

Up until now I always thought that was weird... obviously her car had more horses, why would it stall?... I thought maybe BMW "tuned" their cars to force drivers to be more aggressive, some kind of macho thing. Now (I think) I know it's an actual performance issue, and that makes much more sense

[do2mind]

BlackIce, it sounds like you've got your clutch adjusted very similarly to that of the BMW I've driven, and the Porsche aero mentioned. Do you run a light flywheel? Is your style to just rev it up, pop the clutch and go (3/4 of a second)??? Or do you try to "blend" the clutch and gas together more gradually (a second and a half or so)???

[blazenem]

i do valet on the week ends and some peoples cars suck i wonder how they drive them