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    DIY: ENG- Adjustable IAB Control...w/o ECU!

    While my tuned (P28) ECU runs my engine well, it doesn't work the dual-runner intake manifold system, which I prefer to keep for drivability reasons, especially in a daily driver.

    In this DIY, I am going to go over 2 fairly simple ways I came up with to wire in IAB control without needing an ECU to run it.
    In the first and nicer system I am basically modifying an adjustable shift light and relay to act as an adjustable rpm switch for the IAB solenoid.
    This will work for any Honda motor with a dual-runner manifold-F22,H22,H23,B18C,etc.. From what I have found, this is cheaper than buying an rpm activated switch that is fully adjustable, though I don't know why.
    The second method will only work for VTEC engine and ECU setups, is not adjustable, and uses only the relay and some wire.


    Before I start, I want to go over how the stock system works.
    This should help us understand why and how to do this modification.
    When the engine is off, the second set of runners is naturally open.
    When the engine is on and the rpm is below a set point, the IAB solenoid is energized allowing vacuum from the engine to hold the secondary set of intake runners closed for improved torque and throttle response.
    When the higher rpm is reached where more air and shorter runners is desirable, the IAB solenoid should be electrically switched off, allowing the intake to return to it's naturally open state.
    The stock signal to open is around 4800rpm, and you definitely won't want to be in VTEC with them closed.
    With the following system, you can put the switchover at any rpm you like.




    METHOD ONE- Fully Adjustable Standalone IAB Control:

    *adj. knob pic


    Basic wiring skills are required.
    If you know how to splice, strip and solder, you'll be fine.


    Parts Needed:

    adjustable rpm shift light <$36
    I got mine from Summit Racing, Part #SUM-G2945.
    But any light that is adjustable and has a 12V (NON-LED) bulb should work.



    One 12volt SPDT Relay (20/30+amp recommended) <$5
    These are standard Single Pole Double Throw Relays.
    They have 5 pins, and should come with a connector and some wire.
    Mine are by Bosch from eBay, Radio Shack and maybe some automotive stores should have them.
    FYI, here is a link to a short description of how this relay works
    http://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp

    *relay pic and overview



    Tools Needed:

    Multitester
    soldering iron & solder
    heat shrink tubing
    lighter/heat gun
    wire cutter/strippers
    small phillips screwdriver

    *Tools pic


    Not Pictured:
    wire
    ring terminal(s) for ground wire, 1/4"hole 14-16ga.
    10 mm wrench or ratchet & socket for ground bolts

    Optional:

    wire loom
    indicator light

    Preparing:
    Decide whether you want to mount the shift light under the hood or inside the car.
    I have had mine mounted inside, but didn't change the adjustment much once set.
    I decided to put it under the hood on my CB, it makes the wiring easier, but you have to find a good spot to mount it.
    You'll notice mine is crushed a bit since it didn't (used to) fit under the hood where I put it.
    If you decide to install everything in the car, you will need to run a few wires through the firewall, and may want to splice into the ECU wires for power(pin A25) and ground(pin A23).
    The pics in this DIY are from my underhood install, but I will provide info for both locations.

    *installed in bay pic



    1. Modifying the shift light.

    a) Use the screwdriver to remove the screws holding the front housing of the shift light, then remove the housing to gain access to the bulb.

    b) Remove the bulb and solder two wires to the bulb contacts. Make the wires long enough to reach the relay when installed. Scratching or sanding the contacts a bit should help the solder stick if needed.
    I checked polarity and ran the positive side of the bulb (gray wire in pic) to 86 on the relay, but I don't think polarity actually matters here.

    c) Modify the front shift light housing (to not cut the wires) and reinstall, or cover the end of the main housing with a rubber cap, electrical tape, etc.

    d) Follow the instructions for the light, make sure it is configured for the right # of cylinders!

    *shiftlight mod pic



    2. Locating power and tach signals.

    Power must be supplied to the relay and shift light, which also requires a tach signal.
    I suggest splicing into the right engine bay wiring harness.
    Get out the multitester and use the pic below to identify the stock wires.
    Check for voltage on the car-side connector pin to ground with the key on.
    Check to confirm the tach signal wire by pulling both pictured connectors and checking continuity between ends.

    Later, when you go to splice into the wires, do so behind these connectors.
    This way you can avoid having to cut wires if the engine ever needs to be removed.
    The connectors must be removed from the brackets before they can be separated.

    *wiring check pic



    3. Wiring and installation.

    Disconnect the negative battery terminal and any active capacitors, etc., blah blah. Cut the power.
    Mount the shift light and relay in the engine bay, don't let them get crushed by the hood like mine.
    Wiring Time!
    Power gets spliced from the black/yellow engine bay wire and fed to both the shift light, and terminal 30 on the relay.
    The shift light ground wire should get a ring terminal and go on a ground bolt.
    The blue wire with the tach signal gets spliced to the shiftlight.
    The two wires from the bulb contacts of the light go to the coil circuit of the relay, 86 and 85.
    Terminal 87 (switched on) of the relay will not be used with the shift light unless you want to use it for an indicator light showing intake release.
    Terminal 87a (normally on) is wired to the clip-side terminal of the IAB solenoid connector/plug.
    If you have stock IAB wiring, you will need to cut the black/yellow wire on the plug, tape off the harness side (or use for power), and wire into the plug side.
    The non clip-side terminal of the IAB plug should get a ring terminal and go to a ground bolt, but will work on most bolts of the intake manifold or engine.
    If you have stock IAB wiring, you can locate the pink/blue wire in the above pic and ground the wire anywhere before the ECU.

    *photowiring diagram


    *ground locations pic



    4. Install test.

    a) Double-check your wiring, plug in all connectors, insulate all bare wire, and hook the battery up.
    b) With the car still off, look at the position of the iab rotor on the driver side of the intake manifold.
    c) Turn the car on, let it idle, get out and check to see that the iab rotor has moved to close the runners.
    Another way to check at idle is to temporarily disconnect the hose running to the iab diaphragm towards the top of the intake manifold, and see if it moves the IAB mechanism.
    A friend could hear the relay click when the key is first turned to ON, engine off, if it is working correctly.
    d) Once the engine has warmed up a bit, the switching function can be tested.
    Set the shift light's rpm adjustment somewhere on the low side.
    Have a friend hit the gas or use the throttle rotor to raise the engine rpm until you see the rotor and mechanism move on the left side of the intake manifold.


    5. Finishing up.

    If everything looks good, turn the car off, solder and heatshrink all connections, or use electrical tape if you have to.
    Insulate all bare wire and install wire loom if desired.


    6. Set the dial where you want the IABs to open.
    Go drive your car and laugh in the face of compromise!


    IN-CAR INSTALL variations:
    a) You can wire into the main relay's key-on power and ground at the ECU wiring harness.
    The black wire at pin A23 is ground.
    The black/yellow wire at pin A25 is power.
    b) If you have stock IAB wiring, you can cut the pink/blue ECU wire at A17, and hook relay pin 87a to the outgoing end..
    Then go under the hood.
    Cut off the stock solenoid plug and solder the pink/blue harness wire's end to the black/yellow connector side wire.
    Ground the pink/blue wire coming out from the connector.
    Tape off the black/yellow wire from the harness.
    Find or run the tach signal inside (Isn't it at the ECU somewhere too?)



    So now when the ignition comes on and there is engine vacuum, the relay-powered solenoid holds the runners closed..
    Until the selected rpm is reached, then the shift "light" switches the relay and power to the solenoid is cut. Just like stock.
    Last edited by lucid; 11-12-2008, 02:22 PM.

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    #2
    METHOD TWO (VTEC Only)- Using a relay to hold the intake butterflies closed until VTEC:

    You will not need the shiftlight for this install, just the SPDT relay, wire and tools.

    1. Preparing.

    Disconnect the negative battery terminal and pull back the front passenger side carpet to gain access to the ECU.
    Check the diagrams below and positively identify the wires you will be splicing into.
    The terminal locations are pictured as if looking at the ECU with the clips at the top.
    You can confirm you have the right wire by checking the color of the wire and the ones beside it.

    *OBD1 ECU terminal locations


    *OBD1 ECU wire colors and function


    2. Wiring.

    Use the wiring diagram below.
    Mount the relay.
    Splice key-on power from the wire going to pin A25, and run it to terminal 30 of the relay.
    Splice ground from the wire going to pin A23 and run it to terminal 85 of the relay (switch ground).
    Cut your VTEC solenoid wire coming from pin A4-
    Connect the ECU side to terminal 86 of the relay (switch signal).
    Connect the solenoid side of the VTEC wire to terminal 87 on the relay (switched on).
    Connect the wire runnning to the clip side of the IAB solenoid connector to terminal 87a on the relay (unswitched on).
    Ground the other side of the IAB solenoid connector on the engine somewhere.
    You will need to run one wire through the firewall to the IAB solenoid if your car does not have IAB wiring in place already.
    To run a wire, poke a tiny hole in the firewall grommet for the ECU wires, just big enough to squeeze the wire through. Seal it with RTV, etc. if there is room for water to get in, just to be safe.

    *Relay Direct Wiring Diagram



    3. Testing.

    Doublecheck your wiring, make sure everything is connected, insulate your wires, and reconnect the battery.
    with the car off, observe the open position of the IAB mechanism as mentioned above.
    Turn the car on (you may hear the relay click), get out and check to see that the runners are now closed.
    Go drive, let the car come up to operating temp, then rev through 2nd or 3rd gear to VTEC.

    4. If you hit VTEC the relay works, just make sure the intake closes at startup.
    Make sure you have your wires the way you want them and put the carpet and any panels back in place.

    With this system the butterflies are held closed until the relay is triggered by the ECU's VTEC signal.
    When the VTEC signal is received, the relay instantly switches it's power from the IAB solenoid to the VTEC solenoid.
    This also gives maximum kick @ VTEC activation since it's a single-stage system.
    Last edited by lucid; 11-12-2008, 02:35 PM.

    The H22 Sleeper Sedan, updated 8/14
    After 4 months down...It's back! and tucked.
    Need a Swap or some work done in the DC/MD/VA/WV area?
    PM me and get it done right!

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      #3
      Originally posted by lucid View Post
      METHOD TWO (VTEC Only)- Using a relay to hold the intake butterflies closed until VTEC:

      You will not need the shiftlight for this install, just the SPDT relay, wire and tools.

      1. Preparing.

      Disconnect the negative battery terminal and pull back the front passenger side carpet to gain access to the ECU.
      Check the diagrams below and positively identify the wires you will be splicing into.
      The terminal locations are pictured as if looking at the ECU with the clips at the top.
      You can confirm you have the right wire by checking the color of the wire and the ones beside it.

      *OBD1 ECU terminal locations


      *OBD1 ECU wire colors and function


      2. Wiring.

      Use the wiring diagram below.
      Mount the relay.
      Splice key-on power from the wire going to pin A25, and run it to terminal 30 of the relay.
      Splice ground from the wire going to pin A23 and run it to terminal 85 of the relay (switch ground).
      Cut your VTEC solenoid wire coming from pin A4-
      Connect the ECU side to terminal 86 of the relay (switch signal).
      Connect the solenoid side of the VTEC wire to terminal 87 on the relay (switched on).
      Connect the wire runnning to the clip side of the IAB solenoid connector to terminal 87a on the relay (unswitched on).
      Ground the other side of the IAB solenoid connector on the engine somewhere.
      You will need to run one wire through the firewall to the IAB solenoid if your car does not have IAB wiring in place already.
      To run a wire, poke a tiny hole in the firewall grommet for the ECU wires, just big enough to squeeze the wire through. Seal it with RTV, etc. if there is room for water to get in, just to be safe.

      *Relay Direct Wiring Diagram



      3. Testing.

      Doublecheck your wiring, make sure everything is connected, insulate your wires, and reconnect the battery.
      with the car off, observe the open position of the IAB mechanism as mentioned above.
      Turn the car on (you may hear the relay click), get out and check to see that the runners are now closed.
      Go drive, let the car come up to operating temp, then rev through 2nd or 3rd gear to VTEC.

      4. If you hit VTEC the relay works, just make sure the intake closes at startup.
      Make sure you have your wires the way you want them and put the carpet and any panels back in place.

      With this system the butterflies are held closed until the relay is triggered by the ECU's VTEC signal.
      When the VTEC signal is received, the relay instantly switches it's power from the IAB solenoid to the VTEC solenoid.
      This also gives maximum kick @ VTEC activation since it's a single-stage system.
      dood thats awsomness bro
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        #4
        i see what ur saying
        but
        the car will really suck in performance below vtec

        its gonna be fun as hell vtec+opening of the IABS

        but getting to vtec will be a bitch
        Originally posted by deevergote
        Just do what PR CB7 said.

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          #5
          Originally posted by PR CB7 View Post
          i see what ur saying
          but
          the car will really suck in performance below vtec

          its gonna be fun as hell vtec+opening of the IABS

          but getting to vtec will be a bitch
          No, actually the car is faster in the low end with the IABs closed, that's why honda put them there. No IABs means no ass in the low end.

          The H22 Sleeper Sedan, updated 8/14
          After 4 months down...It's back! and tucked.
          Need a Swap or some work done in the DC/MD/VA/WV area?
          PM me and get it done right!

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            #6
            Thank You!!!

            You are a god send on steroids!

            Now I just need to find the time to do it. (school is the devil!)

            201 Whp H22a with bolt ons, see the progress from stock f22a to now HERE

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              #7
              wow


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                #8
                well done, ive thought about a shift light being used for the IABs, its a premade circuit that costs less than the RPM switch, and functions the same.

                you could also use this as an adjustable vtec crossover...

                i love the photowiring diagram, you totally laid this out easily for people !


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                  #9
                  this diy has warped my fragile little mind....

                  lol..........great write up bro very detailed..
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ghetto_CB7 View Post
                    You are a god send on steroids!

                    Now I just need to find the time to do it. (school is the devil!)
                    Thanks, props to you too, for motivating me to do this!

                    Originally posted by Juice21 View Post
                    wow
                    Originally posted by cp[mike] View Post
                    well done, ive thought about a shift light being used for the IABs, its a premade circuit that costs less than the RPM switch, and functions the same.

                    you could also use this as an adjustable vtec crossover...

                    i love the photowiring diagram, you totally laid this out easily for people !
                    Yeah, I figured the photos would be understood visually better than a drawing.

                    Originally posted by MclovinRR View Post
                    this diy has warped my fragile little mind....

                    lol..........great write up bro very detailed..
                    Thanks guys! I've been wanting to share these ideas for a while. I am so glad I figured out a solution instead of compromising.

                    The H22 Sleeper Sedan, updated 8/14
                    After 4 months down...It's back! and tucked.
                    Need a Swap or some work done in the DC/MD/VA/WV area?
                    PM me and get it done right!

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                      #11
                      great DIY

                      DIY

                      maximum kick at VTEC = awesomeness

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                        #12
                        dang...

                        it appears that it will work... but so much for a wire tuck.. this adds ton of them. Thats the only downside i see..

                        other than that. it would be really kewl to put your car on a dyno, and keep adjusting the opening point during pulls, to really see where you get the best tq, crossover for each individual setup.
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                          #13
                          Once I saw the shift light I was like ... OF COURSE why didn't I think of that? This is pretty awesome! I'm sure for stockers like me the OEM setup would work best (4800 rpms eh?) but I may still do this any way...I mean under $40? Not bad! Especially great for folks who get the plates and either the black box wasn't available or broken. Thanks for the post
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by KeeleDesign View Post
                            dang...

                            it appears that it will work... but so much for a wire tuck.. this adds ton of them. Thats the only downside i see..

                            other than that. it would be really kewl to put your car on a dyno, and keep adjusting the opening point during pulls, to really see where you get the best tq, crossover for each individual setup.
                            This definitely works.
                            As for the wire tuck- run them with the tucked wires or mount the shift light and relay inside the car I guess.
                            I wish I could afford dyno tuning- for now I have them open above 5. I can hear them open but barely feel it so it should be soon enough. Opening below five I don't think it helps much and I can't hear it or anything.
                            My P28 doesn't support IAB control, and my cams won't let me go into VTEC until about 5,500rpm, so this works great for me.

                            Originally posted by bcjammerx View Post
                            Once I saw the shift light I was like ... OF COURSE why didn't I think of that? This is pretty awesome! I'm sure for stockers like me the OEM setup would work best (4800 rpms eh?) but I may still do this any way...I mean under $40? Not bad! Especially great for folks who get the plates and either the black box wasn't available or broken. Thanks for the post
                            This is to keep the system when you change ECUs, to add the system for a dual runner intake or engine swap, or to bypass ECU control, but you still need the stock black box, solenoid and vacuum system.

                            The H22 Sleeper Sedan, updated 8/14
                            After 4 months down...It's back! and tucked.
                            Need a Swap or some work done in the DC/MD/VA/WV area?
                            PM me and get it done right!

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                              #15
                              so ugh.. when your h22a's go ka-boom hit me up with pics..


                              the crossover+iab open causes a serious leanspot right at vtec engagement.. the ecu cant compensate fast enough.. so tuning is required with the above method..


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