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    AC operation and system pressure questions

    I was charging my ac yesterday by forcing the compressor on.
    I used a gauge set, and saw various numbers. Sometimes, the
    high side went as high as 200 psi. Then a valve (or something)
    opened, the pressure dropped, and the fans kicked on. I saw the
    high side pressure drop down to various low marks, nothing less
    than 100 iirc. When this happened, I had cold coming out of my ac.

    I ran out of refrigerant and stopping charging. I reconnected the
    compressor, but it still doesn’t turn on by itself. The high side
    (obviously) stopped building. I saw the pressure drop and fans
    kick on twice, all the while still having somewhat cold air. After
    the pressure stabilized around 100, no more cold air.

    Before charging and after charging, the low side read around
    75 psi, compressor off.

    I still hold the belief that the system still needs more charge,
    but I don’t know why the compressor isn’t kicking on. Any
    ideas/normal system pressures?
    MRT
    37.5 MPG, AC on, cruising at 80.
    30.0 MPG, AC on, aggressively driving around 90.
    27.5 MPG, no AC, cruising at 90 with occasional gridlock. 40 degrees Fahrenheit

    Lots of DIY videos specifically for our car

    Get some awesome wipers! <-- It's a DIY
    Originally posted by Tippey764
    I think driving your car naked will cause the engine to overheat
    Originally posted by deevergote
    sneaky motherfucker

    #2
    Haynes manual for A/C and heating calls for 25-35 for low side and 200 for high side.

    It sounds to me your system is undercharged, still. But, I could be wrong.
    Last edited by oyajicool; 05-29-2013, 08:39 AM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by oyajicool View Post
      Haynes manual for A/C and heating calls for 25-35 for low side and 200 for high side.

      It sounds to me your system is undercharged, still. But, I could be wrong.
      What page is that on? Last I checked it just said consult with a certified ac system professional.
      Similar to trying to fix anything srs related.
      MRT
      37.5 MPG, AC on, cruising at 80.
      30.0 MPG, AC on, aggressively driving around 90.
      27.5 MPG, no AC, cruising at 90 with occasional gridlock. 40 degrees Fahrenheit

      Lots of DIY videos specifically for our car

      Get some awesome wipers! <-- It's a DIY
      Originally posted by Tippey764
      I think driving your car naked will cause the engine to overheat
      Originally posted by deevergote
      sneaky motherfucker

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        #4
        Haynes manual number 10425, "Haynes Techbook, Automotive heating & Air Conditioning".
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          #5
          This is the guide from my helms manual for a 1990 accord. Its for R12 refrigerant though, R134a will be different



          I just put a new Hadsys RC-17S (took awhile to find one for a good price, ~175 shipped off ebay) remanufactured compressor in my 93 Accord EX and charged it up with R12 and I'm getting 28 degree center vent temperatures when revving up to 1500 rpm, and about 45 degrees at idle. Couldn't be happier. I really didn't go by the pressure temperature chart though, I knew total capacity was 28-30oz, so I put both 14 oz cans in and some of a 12 oz can I had until my temps got cold enough.

          I ended up with 50 psi on the low side and about 175 on the high side with about a 97-100 degree ambient.
          Last edited by Losiracer2; 05-29-2013, 10:28 PM.

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            #6
            I work at Denso, and we have like 100 of those ac machines.
            I just asked the right guy, and he did it for me.

            I had the correct pressures, but not enough of the right stuff.

            Something like .8 lbs, when I needed 1.7 lbs (Refrigerant)

            We also confirmed what I thought was wrong, there was a TON of oil in there.
            The canister on his machine was empty when we started, and almost full when
            we finished. The foam caused it to overflow.

            Still not working, but I think we've narrowed it down to either the AC thermostat
            or the pressure switch. I was able to force the compressor on and make it cold
            before, so I always have that option!

            (I'm headed on a 11 day road trip in less than a week, I want to make sure it works)
            MRT
            37.5 MPG, AC on, cruising at 80.
            30.0 MPG, AC on, aggressively driving around 90.
            27.5 MPG, no AC, cruising at 90 with occasional gridlock. 40 degrees Fahrenheit

            Lots of DIY videos specifically for our car

            Get some awesome wipers! <-- It's a DIY
            Originally posted by Tippey764
            I think driving your car naked will cause the engine to overheat
            Originally posted by deevergote
            sneaky motherfucker

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              #7
              My low side pressure is somewhere around 28-40. Your high side pressure will vary depending on the outside temperature. I think my high side is somewhere between 180-230 depending on the temp

              The pressure switch will cut off the compressor if the pressure gets above 240. I think. Maybe 260.

              Also when you shut the car off the system will level out both aides will be closer to the same If that makes sense. Or at least that's what mine does

              When I filled mine it took 2 cans of r134. And my ac is cold as shit. It blows 44 at 100 deg outside.

              Steve

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