**URGENT** SAVE YOUR CB7's LIFE!!!

[mrhonda]

Ok, this is sad, I guess I never really realized what a problem this was until recently. Lately, I've just been seeing a shitload of CB7s coming into the shop with blown-out countershaft seals. I'm talking like 2-3 a month! And 90% the time it results in the motor seizing up. As soon as that seal pops out, you have about three seconds to shut off the engine before its smoked. This seams to have become the second largest killer of CB7's Matter of fact, when I did my t-belt a few months back, as soon as I pulled off the lower timing cover I looked up at the countershaft seal and it was sticking about 3/4 of the way out! Anyway, my suggestion, go to your Honda dealer and buy the seal retainer and install it. Cheap insurance because it not so much a question of if.....but a question of when.

[Maple50175]

good to know. Mine is leaking I think :-/ but i dont have money to get a new timming belt n shit it sucks man

[accordaffair]

Could this be purchased from majestichonda.com? Reason I ask is going to the closest honda dealership is a big PIMA. I would much prefer to shell out shipping then go there...

[starchland]

so this is like an extra gasket that that you put on?

plus im pissed right now cause i backed into a snowbank and broke one side of my bumper.......fuck please condole me

[accordaffair]

you mean console? not condone I assume? anyway....POOR BABY....walk it off j/k

[mayberry]

it was a honda service bulletin years ago, honda sells countershaft seal retainers for about 3 dollars, i suggest u guys look into it....the thing that sucks is its like changing a t-belt. so if you dont do it yourself, i would suggest having your mechanic do it when he does your t belt and water pump service......if you've had it recently, check with whoever did it to see if one was put in.

[Turbo_p]

I don't know if this is the same for my EDM F20A2.
I'll check at my local Honda Dealer.
My car is never been serviced at a honda dealership so i don't think it will have the retainer in it. But i better check it out..........

[HondaFan81]

I had my 90 EX 5-spd serviced probably like 10K miles or so, they replaced the timing belt, balancer belt, water pump, some seals, etc. I believe they did this one & most likely put that seal retainer, I'd have to check back on the invoice. I know these seal retainers are cheap.

mrhonda: First, thank you very much for the info. Second, don't we have two balancer/countershafts? Therfore, we would need how many seals and how many seal retainers in total? I'm definitely keeping this in mind for my project engine and doing it off the bat.

[mayberry]

only the one on the upper left needs one, the other ones are fine for some oddball reason....

[offthahook]

That, my friends, is serious good lookin' out. I had no idea, and I'm about to get my belts done... That would be the suck to have that seal blowout.

[TheTempest]

great info, much appriciated. I'll go take a look at my countershaft seal today while i'm chaning the oil, flusing the colant and some other fun stuff

Again, Thanks.

[i_love_cb7]

wheres the seal? can anyone post a pic?
plzzzzzz

[cp[mike]]

its a brown seal around the front countershaft, pic is below. its the one around the shaft behind the gear in the bottom left corner of the pic, just above the "14521-P14-A00"... the OEM seal retainer is a crescent bracket that bolts to the 10mm dipstick bolt, and it holds the seal in place.

ive seen some motors that came with them, some that didnt, so if the car has been dealer serviced, theres a high chance that its been put in. and ive actually seen a motor with the seal partially walked out....

[Prez808]

Good advice. Wasn't there a bulletin for this from Honda? I think when I saw it, it included 5th gens only. I've also heard of cases like this happening more to 5th gens. Any reason for that?

[icedplaya123]

Sucks my gf's dad and me replaced my belts in sept, didnt noticed if it had a retainer or not hopefully nothing happens