5 speed swap question

[JohnD1079]

First of let me describe my situation and then my question.
I am putting in a 5 speed f22 in a 91 lx that was originally auto but later "converted" into a 5 speed while putting the in The H. It looks like he didnt cut and weld anything, so he did it it with the washers.
I read last night that if you are doing the 5 speed swap you dont have to cut n weld anything if you are going to be using the Prelude Tranny + mount, all you gotta do is put 3/8" washers.

Well since im using the reg F22 with the 5 sp., how much do i have to space the mounts? I already added 7/8" worth of spacers, and the engine is sitting a lot less crooked then how it was b4 with no spacing.

So, my question is, Is is possible to just keep on adding washers as spacers to even out how the engine sits? if so, how much?

[texasvtak]

3/8"

[cp[mike]]

while youre making it more level, youre also making it sit that much lower in the engine bay. that will throw the front mount off at the least. and i wonder if it could cause any axle issues? ive never tried going too much lower than like 1/2" so im not sure.


so you mean youre still using an h22 tranny with an F22? or are you saying youre using an F22 transmission? most f22 trannies dont have the holes for the mount, unless its from a 5g/lude...

[texasvtak]

Im blaming this method for my axle issues at the moment. I suggest cutting and welding or getting esp conversion mount(s).

[JohnD1079]

As of now i am putting in a 5 sp f22 into a Regular Auto Engine bay.

The 3/8" sound right i guess, but what i do no get is, ive added almost 7/8" of washers to lower it, and the engine is still sitting crooked (higher on the tranny side)

[cp[mike]]

As of now i am putting in a 5 sp f22 into a Regular Auto Engine bay.

The 3/8" sound right i guess, but what i do no get is, ive added almost 7/8" of washers to lower it, and the engine is still sitting crooked (higher on the tranny side)

are you using a 5spd f22 transmission mount?

[The G-Man]

As of now i am putting in a 5 sp f22 into a Regular Auto Engine bay.

The 3/8" sound right i guess, but what i do no get is, ive added almost 7/8" of washers to lower it, and the engine is still sitting crooked (higher on the tranny side)

You add the 3/8'' washers on the timing belt side to lower it down to the tranny side. Before the washers the timing side should have been higher than the tranny.

Sounds like you put too many washers on the timing side and made it lower than the tranny.

[JohnD1079]

are you using a 5spd f22 transmission mount?

Yes, a regular 5 sp tranny mount. I took a h22 5 sp mount and compared it and i think only the one whole on the right side matched, but the no others didnt. I didnt compare them to the tranny, since i am not gonna drill/tap the tranny.

G-man- yes i did add washers to the timing side in order to tilt the motor forward bc the front mount wouldnt line up to the holes, which made the engine tilt foreward, but also more crooked (higher on the pass. side), but i just took those washers out, and it still sits crooked, like i still need to add washers on the pass. side, and i would, but i ran out of space on the 1 stud.

[The G-Man]

Wait a sec. You are using the F22 (CB7) manual tranny mount, and bolting it to the automatic mount bracket?

If this is true, that won't work. You have to use a Prelude bracket.

[JohnD1079]

Wait a sec. You are using the F22 (CB7) manual tranny mount, and bolting it to the automatic mount bracket?

If this is true, that won't work. You have to use a Prelude bracket.

Yes the f22 manual tranny, with a f22 manual tranny mount + bracket.

Why wouldnt it work? Bc of the hight(sp.), or bc of a certain angle? If its just bc of the hight(sp. again), i would just add some more washers

[texasvtak]

Bah. Just do it right. If you go too low later on youre gonna regret it.

[The G-Man]

Yes the f22 manual tranny, with a f22 manual tranny mount + bracket.

Why wouldnt it work? Bc of the hight(sp.), or bc of a certain angle? If its just bc of the hight(sp. again), i would just add some more washers

This is the F22 manual mount and F22 manual bracket welded to the right spot right? If not, this won't work.

[JohnD1079]

This is the F22 manual mount and F22 manual bracket welded to the right spot right? If not, this won't work.

What do you mean by that? or are you refering to texasvtaks post?
if so, i think me means cut off the complete braket out of the engine bay, and then reweld it lower

[cp[mike]]

Yes the f22 manual tranny, with a f22 manual tranny mount + bracket.

Why wouldnt it work? Bc of the hight(sp.), or bc of a certain angle? If its just bc of the hight(sp. again), i would just add some more washers

did you not see how drastically different they were? the auto engine bay will nowhere near accept a 5spd cb7 mount, because of height AND angle. its off by way too much, thats the whole point of using the prelude mount.


to use that transmission, you WILL need to cut the bracket off the side of the engine bay and weld a new one on. did you read the stickies explaining all of this?

[texasvtak]

did you read the stickies explaining all of this?

Who reads stickies?