CB7 V6 Swap Parts List & Methods

[cp[mike]]

ok, how about the shifter assembly, I am guessing we would need one from the 6speed accord/tl models right?

i cant imagine cl/tl/accord shifter and cables being very hard to swap over. no harder than a 5spd conversion, just the bolt holes arent premade for you.

[lokuputha]

I was looking at my F20A DOHC motor and assembly today, and it seems very wide, infact maybe even wider than the entire V6 setup...packaging was obvisouly not an issue due to the I4 configuration and the loads of space in the engine bay...the Intake manifold, motor, and DC header is what takes up such space,

In the V6, the intake mani is between the cylinders and the headers are below the cylinders....its seems to be a very compact package...

Im going to try visiting a Honda/Acura dealership and getting some measurements.

oh, almost forgot...another addition to the list:

custom drive shafts

[owequitit]

I was looking at my F20A DOHC motor and assembly today, and it seems very wide, infact maybe even wider than the entire V6 setup...packaging was obvisouly not an issue due to the I4 configuration and the loads of space in the engine bay...the Intake manifold, motor, and DC header is what takes up such space,

In the V6, the intake mani is between the cylinders and the headers are below the cylinders....its seems to be a very compact package...

Im going to try visiting a Honda/Acura dealership and getting some measurements.

oh, almost forgot...another addition to the list:

custom drive shafts

I have already been there done that.

Front to back, the J series is about the same as a 4 cylinder with manifolds.

Side to side the V6 and tranny are shorter.

only 3 cylinders worth of length.

[lokuputha]

I have already been there done that.

Front to back, the J series is about the same as a 4 cylinder with manifolds.

Side to side the V6 and tranny are shorter.

only 3 cylinders worth of length.

so there should be very little issues regarding interference, how about the height?...

i was just browing the net and found this site...a 6apeed TL swap...there are some good pics of the TL engine, tranny, harnesses, an so on.

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132270

[owequitit]

so there should be very little issues regarding interference, how about the height?...

i was just browing the net and found this site...a 6apeed TL swap...there are some good pics of the TL engine, tranny, harnesses, an so on.

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132270

Couldn't get a good measurement of height with the engine in the car, so that I don't know about for sure.

[owequitit]

hmm, so basically..what you're saying is....swapping in a J30 or J35 is SMALLER than a I4 because theres 4 cylinder wide..VS 3 cylinders wide hence a V6?

so I wouldn't be that hard to swap it in..just need to do a bunch of fabbing due to mounting...relocating lines, hoses and reworking a new harness and ecu for this setup! and etc etc..just the things AROUND the swap is what needs the attention!

Hmm never thought of that! ...but it makes alot of sense..a 4 cylinder is WIDER ( from side to side )...but the V6 is wide according to firewall to Radiator! thats where it fills up..( firewall to Radiator ) NOT side to side



now I know...just from THINKING...it will be a BITCH to change the back 3 plugs..once that swap is in!...

The V6 won't be any more of a fitment issue than an I4 would. You are only considering the engine block.

Problem is an I4 block has a 12" long IM hanging off one end. Then on the other end, it has a 6" exhaust manifold. So you aren't really dealing with the block. You are dealing with the IM + the engine block +the exhaust manifold.

Total width front to back is actually slightly larger than the V6.

Why?

Even though you have 2 cylinder banks, they are only seperated by 60 degrees which not only keeps the cylinders naturally balanced, but also keeps them compact.

So what about the IM? It doesn't add to the width because it is tucked in between the cylinder banks.

How about the exhaust manifolds, they don't add to the width because they are tucked UNDER the cylinder banks, and thus the valve covers are still the widest part of the engine.

Here is a link to illustrate the compact packaging:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...04470003QQrdZ1

It is an Ebay auction, so it will be gone eventually, but for now, you can clearly see that the VCs are the widest part of the engine. Clear those, and everything else fits.

[Ralphie]

No linky

And damn is this thread uber exciting!!!!

[lokuputha]

k here r some engine bay pics from the above link i posted....these pics are from a TL 6speed swap...







this is what i was concerned with...hood clearance...but then again...custom mounts








the 6speed tranny is smaller...which is a good thing.

[GreenMadness]

That was what i was thinking when we picked up my dads v6 accord. Let me know if there is any info i can grab for you guys. since i know the dealerships may not let you go "hands-on" in thier engine bays.

only down side is his is auto.

[owequitit]

No linky

And damn is this thread uber exciting!!!!

Edited. Link added.

[lokuputha]

That was what i was thinking when we picked up my dads v6 accord. Let me know if there is any info i can grab for you guys. since i know the dealerships may not let you go "hands-on" in thier engine bays.

only down side is his is auto.

cool...if u can post some info that would be great, a lot easier than going to a dealership:

1) the height of the entire engine....from oilpan to intake manifold.

2) The vertical distance to the engine mounts from the intake manifold.

[cp[mike]]

my friends bro has a v6 6g coupe. been meaning to take a close look but always end up getting distracted.

[NAiL05]

I heard if you do the 3.2 TL-S swap into an av6 the engine sits a bit higher. I hear people just notch the underpinnings of the hood a big and it fits Might as well make a big ram air system for the accord if it sits too high =P finally a functional hood scoop on an accord lol.

[lokuputha]

wow..
j32 on cb7... wow
so we gonna see N/A sub12sec cb7 soon
which is caPABALE of killin evos, wrx, most of v8s....

where does this mad scientist live..?
wanna go check it out...
wow..
i wanna see this thing takes off.....
keep us informed..
thank you

there's no mad scientist yet... those pics are from a 6speed TL swap...just so we can have a look at the engine bay.

we are brainstorming as to what is needed for a J30/32/35 swap...

its seems as complicated as a K swap....except this swap will yield much higher power gains with minimal modifications to the motor

[lokuputha]

i just found this Honda-tech thread about swaps into civics...it the engine fits in there...they it will definitely fit in our engine bay.


http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1741656&page=1


here r some pics...the rest i'll just link...


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/v6civic2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/v6civic3.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/v6civic5.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/v6civic6.jpg