The J30A V6 Swap attempt - questions, comments

[i'm the girl]

are you sure about that? im thinkin it wasn't available in the 6th gen in manual at all, thats the reason that people who have the j30 dont do auto to manual swaps. the only available transmissions are the acura cl and type-s transmissions..
*edit* i got smoked on that one..haha

well i accidentally combined two thoughts there - the 6th gen av6 never had a manual, but the 6th gen I4 was available in 5-spd in the last year or two (i shouldn't type after ive been drinking really )

he doesn't need a cl type-s tranny - he's getting a 7th AV6 donor which already has a 6-speed

the new J30A4 puts out noticeably stronger - esp in a manual - than it little predecessor the A1 - due to a reworked intake and a few other details owequitit has already mentioned

[gloryaccordy]

turbo f22...225wtq no problem...easier and proven and cheaper, plus its lighter and less work. there is no practical advantage, that i see, to putting one of these in a cb7..i know it has 195tq stock, but still h22 cb will still outrun it stock to stock.
*edit* not to mention the fact that the more wtq the more wheel-hop problems you have

Yea but you can launch a J30 CB basically from idle and run a crazy time, as opposed to the wheelspin-bound launch you'll get from a turbo F22...not to mention the whole possibly blowing up thing. Plus with all the turbo hardware you're not saving any weight over the V6, and it's all at the front of the car which is even worse. The V6 is at least all behind the wheels. With an intercooler and the turbo it's all ahead of the wheels...

Believe me if the J30 swap was feasible it would be a no-brainer. There's no replacement for dislacement dude.

[floored]

well i accidentally combined two thoughts there - the 6th gen av6 never had a manual, but the 6th gen I4 was available in 5-spd in the last year or two (i shouldn't type after ive been drinking really )

so theres no manual 98 99 00 accords?

[Jarrett]

Not V6 cars.

[floored]

Not V6 cars.

really? no shit. i think there was 5 speed 4 bangers in 98 99 00 but she says no .

[cp[mike]]

really? no shit. i think there was 5 speed 4 bangers in 98 99 00 but she says no .

v6 only came in automatic, same with the 5th gens... the 4cyl's DID come in both manual and auto...

[CB7Perfection]

ok guys i bought the car. it is a Night Hawk Black Pearlk color and it is terrible looking in the rear. i dont know what hit this car. BUT the engine is perfectly fine. the car starts and runs like nothing, it just sounds really loud due to the heavily damaged exhaust. Friday we will get to work on this to see wether or not we will do this.

[cp[mike]]

ok guys i bought the car. it is a Night Hawk Black Pearlk color and it is terrible looking in the rear. i dont know what hit this car. BUT the engine is perfectly fine. the car starts and runs like nothing, it just sounds really loud due to the heavily damaged exhaust. Friday we will get to work on this to see wether or not we will do this.

youre a lucky man. ive been dying to do this swap for the longest time (since before it was ever mentioned on this site), just have no means or money to actually get my hands on the motor. best of luck on the swap, if you end up parting the car and dont do the swap, let me know how much youd want for the motor

[i'm the girl]

well i accidentally combined two thoughts there - the 6th gen av6 never had a manual, but the 6th gen I4 was available in 5-spd in the last year or two (i shouldn't type after ive been drinking really )

oh here i go again - i meant the last year or two of the 6th generation - i need to grammar check b4 i send these things

sorry for the confusion :P

[owequitit]

youre a lucky man. ive been dying to do this swap for the longest time (since before it was ever mentioned on this site), just have no means or money to actually get my hands on the motor. best of luck on the swap, if you end up parting the car and dont do the swap, let me know how much youd want for the motor

You and me both... just to say I did... LOL!

Mondo, the J30A4 puts down about 220 WHP and 200 LB/FT of torque, bone stock. They do respond to mods... And they would respond to bolt ons with no loss of reliability. I will have to see what it weighs, but I bet it isn't that much more than a fully dressed H22.

[cp[mike]]

You and me both... just to say I did... LOL!

Mondo, the J30A4 puts down about 220 WHP and 200 LB/FT of torque, bone stock. They do respond to mods... And they would respond to bolt ons with no loss of reliability. I will have to see what it weighs, but I bet it isn't that much more than a fully dressed H22.

yeah man, same reason as me... itd be cool to have, but id only do it for the experience and to say that ive done it.

i would just throw in some front springs from a 5th gen v6 and call it a day, and worry about a performance suspension later.

CB7Perfection - PICS!!!!

[i'm the girl]

You and me both... just to say I did... LOL!

Mondo, the J30A4 puts down about 220 WHP and 200 LB/FT of torque, bone stock. They do respond to mods... And they would respond to bolt ons with no loss of reliability. I will have to see what it weighs, but I bet it isn't that much more than a fully dressed H22.

not to mention i've seen some badass superchargers for the v6 - and there's a little more reliability in a SC than a turbo...

the A4 already pulls harder than our A1 did with nothing but a CAI, and our A1 had a p/p head, CAI, jun valvetrain (valves, springs, retainers), custom 2.25" exhaust and a test pipe - im forgetting some things, but point is she was a little built up - and responded incredibly to every mod we gave her

to see what the A4 does in its parent car in stock form, it only keeps me wondering how much its gonna pull a little bitty brother boasting a much lighter stock weight to start. owequitit, id be interested to know if you could figure out the weight difference btwn the H- fully dressed and the J in stock form, because I agree that they can't be that different

im with mike on this one, please keep us updated with pics.

[owequitit]

not to mention i've seen some badass superchargers for the v6 - and there's a little more reliability in a SC than a turbo...

the A4 already pulls harder than our A1 did with nothing but a CAI, and our A1 had a p/p head, CAI, jun valvetrain (valves, springs, retainers), custom 2.25" exhaust and a test pipe - im forgetting some things, but point is she was a little built up - and responded incredibly to every mod we gave her

to see what the A4 does in its parent car in stock form, it only keeps me wondering how much its gonna pull a little bitty brother boasting a much lighter stock weight to start. owequitit, id be interested to know if you could figure out the weight difference btwn the H- fully dressed and the J in stock form, because I agree that they can't be that different

im with mike on this one, please keep us updated with pics.

For sure...

Check out http://www.comptechusa.com/indexflash.htm. They are my favorite 6th Gen Accord V6 tuner, because their stuff definitely works, and it doesn't sacrifice the luxury of the car. It is pricey though.

In my mind the ultimate J series setup would be this:

J35 RL block (apparently, it is a little better setup for high RPM duty than the regular J35, although I don't know how true this is).

J32 2nd gen TL/CL Type-S heads (higher flowing than the J30A1, while avoiding the weird exhaust manifolds of the J30A4 and J32AX in the new TL). This would allow you to put after market headers on it...

J30A4/J35 RL or J32 TL intake manifold. This is the high inertia version, and some of them are dual stage too, so that gives an added bonus... I don't know which ones are dual stage yet, I am still trying to figure that out, but I know the RL is, and I am pretty sure the TL is too. I think the 06 up Accord is as well. This upgrade accounted for a fairly large percentage of the power upgrade that came with the newer J series.

Big ass throttle body, Lightweight flywheel, UR crank pulley, Hondata style manifold gaskets.

Comptech Supercharger...

EMS.

I think with this setup properly tuned, you could get around 400WHP pretty easily, probably without really sacrificing reliability.

Hell a bolt on J30A1 with bolt ons and the S/C will put down close to 300 WHP and the J35 in the RL would probably lay down around 250 WHP in a 2WD setup.

And if done right, the J30 exhaust note sounds like an exotic...

Put that in your CB7 and smoke it...

[blazenem]

pics pics pics lol

[floored]

v6 only came in automatic, same with the 5th gens... the 4cyl's DID come in both manual and auto...

i know the bout the v6 but didnt ALL 6th gen i4 come with an avail. 5 speed?

oh here i go again - i meant the last year or two of the 6th generation - i need to grammar check b4 i send these things

sorry for the confusion :P

are you sayin 98 99 00 4cyl didnt have a manual?