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    #16
    The motor/tranny did come with pretty close to 43,000 miles on it. The stock LSD is pretty durable isn't? The possibility of that scenario happening(previous owner burning it up and replacing it) isn't that high is it?

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      #17
      i am used to seeing auto to manual conversion done poorly leading to axle failure on the passenger side. the way that i have never sen probelms is to weld in the correct passenger side frame rail bracket, and use all accord mounts.

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        #18
        Originally posted by 1990HybridCB7
        They used the same mounts on the front and drivers side, passenger was from a 95 manual prelude, the rear was also the same 1990 Accord mount? Do you think that might have somethign to do with it? Yea the car was an automatic before.
        was a spacer installed on the driver side mount? just using the passenger side prelude mount isnt quite enough, itll let the motor sit crooked...

        if you want it to sit 100% perfectly, the bracket on the passenger side needs to be cut out and replaced with the 5spd one.

        ive heard of some people having axle issues with the 4g prelude tranny mount, others didnt...


        - 1993 Accord LX - White sedan (sold)
        - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (wrecked)
        - 1991 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
        - 1990 Accord EX - Grey sedan (sold)
        - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
        - 1992 Accord EX - White coupe (sold)
        - 1993 Accord EX - Grey coupe (stolen)
        - 1993 Accord SE - Gold coupe (sold)
        Current cars:
        - 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon - Daily driver
        - 2004 Chevrolet Express AWD - Camper conversion

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          #19
          I didn't see any kind of space bar in thier. The engine doesn't look crooked though, Haven't had anybody else thats seen it say anything about it. If it were just alittle bit crooked would that be a problem?

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            #20
            yes, being slightly crooked can cause the exact problems you have described and can cause frequent axle failures.

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              #21
              Well I finally took the axle out and measured it at worker with the help of a co worker. The axle was 2mm too long. axle is 49mm and from the back of the wheel bearing to the tranny, its 47mm. When the co worker was putting the axle back in for me he did notice that it was harder than usual to put it back it. Gonna order that axle monday and hope for the best.

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                #22
                Originally posted by 1990HybridCB7
                Well I finally took the axle out and measured it at worker with the help of a co worker. The axle was 2mm too long. axle is 49mm and from the back of the wheel bearing to the tranny, its 47mm. When the co worker was putting the axle back in for me he did notice that it was harder than usual to put it back it. Gonna order that axle monday and hope for the best.
                Is the axle used? Used axles will have some play in them so 49mm could be normal.

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                  #23
                  You really need to focus on the passenger side mount. That's just going to cause you to ruin your new axle(which won't solve the problem anyways).
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                    #24
                    You really need to focus on the passenger side mount. That's just going to cause you to ruin your new axle(which won't solve the problem anyways).
                    What do you mean by focus on it? I was told that the engine even being the least bit crooked could cause this problem to occur. Since I can't vicually see it(or anybody else for that matter), how could I know for sure that it is? And if it is just alittle crooked how would I be able to fix it? my measurements were in cm not mm, sorry bout that. To anwer your question, wrichards2005, the axles weren't used they were brand new.

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                      #25
                      well if the axles were brand new, they shouldnt be the wrong size. I guess they could have given you the wrong part, just check the numbers.

                      If the axles are accord axles and they are not working, then it leaves nothing but the engine/tranny install to blame. The only problems with swaps and axles are when it is converted to 5spd, and it always ends up being the tranny mount.

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                        #26
                        If the axles are accord axles and they are not working, then it leaves nothing but the engine/tranny install to blame. The only problems with swaps and axles are when it is converted to 5spd, and it always ends up being the tranny mount.
                        So your trying to say that my motor/tranny could be crooked too? I just wanna know if there is any way to find out if the motor/tranny is actually crooked since you can't visually see it but it still might be just the least bit crooked. But when we did measure everything, the axle was 49cm and the distance from the tranny to the back of the wheel bearing is 47cm. Maybe your right aero, maybe they did give me the wrong part, I'd have to talk to the shop that did it, from what they told me they did exhaust just about every option to why it was doing what it was doing. Bakc to what you were saying aero, so what dou you mean by it always ends up being the tranny mount. Sorry for all the questions guys I just want to be absoultely sure that this is the only way to fix this problem before I dish out $200 for a custom made axle.

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                          #27
                          if you are not using the accord mount and accord bracket on the top of the transmission as well as the other 3 mounts being accord units I have never seen an engine that sits right. Every swap i have seen over the past 5+ years that is done that way that I have seen myself has issues with axles binding, wearing out faster than they should, or breaking.

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                            #28
                            For the transmission mount I used a 95 prelude mount. Is thier anything else that I would need? Thats all that was used, maybe I could use a leveler to see if it is crooked or would that be too much?

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by 1990HybridCB7
                              For the transmission mount I used a 95 prelude mount. Is thier anything else that I would need? Thats all that was used, maybe I could use a leveler to see if it is crooked or would that be too much?
                              were spacers added to the driver side mount? using a 95 lude mount alone will make the motor sit crooked, with the tranny side sitting 1/2" lower than driver side.

                              btw... try a level


                              - 1993 Accord LX - White sedan (sold)
                              - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (wrecked)
                              - 1991 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
                              - 1990 Accord EX - Grey sedan (sold)
                              - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
                              - 1992 Accord EX - White coupe (sold)
                              - 1993 Accord EX - Grey coupe (stolen)
                              - 1993 Accord SE - Gold coupe (sold)
                              Current cars:
                              - 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon - Daily driver
                              - 2004 Chevrolet Express AWD - Camper conversion

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                                #30
                                I tried a level alittle earlier, it was offcenter alittle bit. So whenever somebody uses a prelude mount like my situation, there has to be a spacebar or else there will be problems like the one I am having right now with my axle? When you guys say a spacebar, what do you mean by it?

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