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    #31
    Originally posted by h22sparkle
    I dont get it why spend that much on just a motor and tranny with probabaly no ecu. And then you gotta buy all this custom shit to make sure it runs right and most shops wont even know how to handle it. And probably fuck it up so that they can be like you dont need it anymore so just sell it to us so we can put it into a civic. For that much spend you can have the same amount of power by building the h22 or f22 boost the shit out of both of them or juice the shit out of both of them. Point blank and would have probably spent less in the long run
    Bah...the crap EP3 Si K20 w/the fake VTEC running on the RSX-S cams makes 200whp with a header and a mild reflash. That's like if we could put H22 cams in an H23 and make 220whp+...yea, the wiring would be a pain, and there's stuff that has to be worked out, but you can't go wrong with the K...


    Originally posted by lordoja
    im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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      #32
      shit u shoulda bought a K24 for 750 just for the fact that u could turn around and sell that shit for triple to the civic SI guys. comptec superchargers made a civic SI with a K24 head pushin out well over 320 HP and they couldnt get traction in anything less than 3, only problem was that they couldnt use the stock SI cluster or navi i think

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        #33
        thats the only thing i would do cop one and sell it for tripple. They wont resist they fiend for it .

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          #34
          i would stick with the f/h series for our accords...it just too much money...and really the only kool thing about doing the swap is that now u can say that u got a k20 under the hood when you can get the h22 for much less and have the same of more poines....
          92 accord dx....traded
          97 accord ex....traded
          93 civic si ....stolen
          96 tercel ....sold
          97 ek hatch b17 ..traded
          97 civic 4door b16 sold
          04 tsx traded ...for a honda coupe (top secret)

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            #35
            you guys who are saying 6k or 7k to put a K series into an accord....well the civic/teg guys are usually spending 8k to 11k to put a k20 into their cars....

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              #36
              Have fun not having torque.

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                #37
                Originally posted by h22sparkle
                ...and most shops wont even know how to handle it. And probably fuck it up so that they can be like you dont need it anymore so just sell it to us so we can put it into a civic...
                most shops? the whole excitement of waiting for the mount kit to come out is that itll finally make the swap doable for most home mechanics who arent capable of creating custom mounts. paying a shop to do it kills the fun


                - 1993 Accord LX - White sedan (sold)
                - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (wrecked)
                - 1991 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
                - 1990 Accord EX - Grey sedan (sold)
                - 1993 Accord EX - White sedan (sold)
                - 1992 Accord EX - White coupe (sold)
                - 1993 Accord EX - Grey coupe (stolen)
                - 1993 Accord SE - Gold coupe (sold)
                Current cars:
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                - 2004 Chevrolet Express AWD - Camper conversion

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cp[mike]
                  most shops? the whole excitement of waiting for the mount kit to come out is that itll finally make the swap doable for most home mechanics who arent capable of creating custom mounts. paying a shop to do it kills the fun
                  Hell with a little brain power you could prob. make the mounts yourself. Getting an engine to sit properly in a car isn't hard...the electronics on the other hand...


                  Originally posted by lordoja
                  im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by cp[mike]
                    most shops? the whole excitement of waiting for the mount kit to come out is that itll finally make the swap doable for most home mechanics who arent capable of creating custom mounts. paying a shop to do it kills the fun
                    yeah like i said most shops i should know i work for one part time . I find nothng exciting waiting for a mount kit first of all wen i rather make my own i can get it done its not hard at all as far as custom and all then you gotta find the right halfshaft. Its not worth it but ontop of that it has no torque. dumping money in that yeah right i rather dump my money elsewhere and make more power and im still main more power than it for half the money it was worth

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by h22sparkle
                      yeah like i said most shops i should know i work for one part time . I find nothng exciting waiting for a mount kit first of all wen i rather make my own i can get it done its not hard at all as far as custom and all then you gotta find the right halfshaft. Its not worth it but ontop of that it has no torque. dumping money in that yeah right i rather dump my money elsewhere and make more power and im still main more power than it for half the money it was worth
                      K24's make more torques than any F's or H's...and I still have yet to see an H22 with stock cams/pistons break 200whp...


                      Originally posted by lordoja
                      im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                        #41
                        you must have not seen the type s hint hint my boy jasonkidd from honda-tech. theres plenty of them out there but they have upgrades like the smspheader intake exhaust and vafc that are doin the 200whp mark trust me with a little bit of vafc tuning aswell.

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                          #42
                          After thinking about this seriously, there is not much to gain. And I couldn't find anyone who wanted to sell me any K-series engines with tranny and wiring for less than $5,000. If VTAK power is what you are looking for, H22 is a much easier choice. If the stroke means that much to you, well stroke the H22.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by AcclipseH23
                            After thinking about this seriously, there is not much to gain. And I couldn't find anyone who wanted to sell me any K-series engines with tranny and wiring for less than $5,000. If VTAK power is what you are looking for, H22 is a much easier choice. If the stroke means that much to you, well stroke the H22.
                            shit let me get a hold of 5g's out of thin air i can design my own vtec lol

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by AcclipseH23
                              After thinking about this seriously, there is not much to gain. And I couldn't find anyone who wanted to sell me any K-series engines with tranny and wiring for less than $5,000. If VTAK power is what you are looking for, H22 is a much easier choice. If the stroke means that much to you, well stroke the H22.
                              you can find them all day for less than $5000 for a swap.....you can make a beast for $3000, but you'll still need another $4000 for everything else.....i doubt you've actually done any research even as deep as motor shopping......stick a $1000 rsx-s head/intake manifold on a k24 crv block ($1000 for complete crv swap) and you have a newer version of the b20/vtec setup...and the PLUS SIDE to these motors is about 100x more aftermarket support, they're far more advanced (come with widebands, easily tuned for big power, they flow well and are very tough, and you can use MANY different configurations of tranny/block/head, etc)

                              but i know, you've spent a lot of time reading papers and being current on everything else.....can't be perfect.....not a lot of car info in the new york times........

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by rickyduckworth
                                you can find them all day for less than $5000 for a swap.....you can make a beast for $3000, but you'll still need another $4000 for everything else.....i doubt you've actually done any research even as deep as motor shopping......stick a $1000 rsx-s head/intake manifold on a k24 crv block ($1000 for complete crv swap) and you have a newer version of the b20/vtec setup...and the PLUS SIDE to these motors is about 100x more aftermarket support, they're far more advanced (come with widebands, easily tuned for big power, they flow well and are very tough, and you can use MANY different configurations of tranny/block/head, etc)

                                but i know, you've spent a lot of time reading papers and being current on everything else.....can't be perfect.....not a lot of car info in the new york times........
                                LOL, why are you always so condescending???

                                Anyways it would be a lot better if they came up with a head swap kit rather than a full motor swap. They could take baby steps with the Accord/CR-V head on the F22/F23 block, then work their way up to the big daddy ITR/TSX heads. I was thinking about this today. All they have to do is get the sensors to work...and if they choose the ODBI ECU's to work from, they could piggyback something to control the i-VTEC. It wouldn't be that hard to do at all, especially considering the strides they made with understanding the B/H series ECUs.


                                Originally posted by lordoja
                                im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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