ABS to NON

[PR CB7]

well i gotta ex

abs dont work

dont wanna fix it

wanna get rid of it

is getting in ma way of wire tucking


iknow that cp mike did his conversion

anyone else know how to do it


is it just buy a master cylinder non abs
and direct the lines

and gut everything or am i missing something

cuz that pump and relays are really there for nothing i believe
i already did a diag and i gotta replace the PUMP



NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
gonna do that
if i take it of there it will be for good
anyone can help me?
thanks

[cp[mike]]

you need a non-ABS brake master cylinder

an integra 40-40 proportioning valve

and the engine bay brake lines from a non-ABS cb7.

all of this is visible in the picture below.




remove all current lines and wiring for ABS and the only two brake lines you KEEP are the two that run down and along the underside of the car... the rest are replaced with the non abs ones


[img]http://www.****.com/pics/92exr/euror_removal/000_0346.JPG[/img]

[Tnwagn]

So what are the advantages of non-abs? Just for clarification. Also, is I thought I read somewhere that you said it wasn't worth it if nothing was wrong to begin with. Is that true?

[cp[mike]]

So what are the advantages of non-abs? Just for clarification. Also, is I thought I read somewhere that you said it wasn't worth it if nothing was wrong to begin with. Is that true?

its a tradeoff, a safety feature vs. the simplicity and directness of not.

abs is proven to be an effective at reducing low traction stopping distances and help prevent wrecks.





but god its so damn annoying and complex!

the way i drive my car i often lock my brakes and use them beyond the threshold of "normal" braking before ABS would kick in. so the pulsating pedal and loss of direct control really bugged the shit out of me. so not only is it now better to drive, but the engine bay is SO much simpler and emptier.

you have to consider the fact that not only does it include the huge mass of brake lines, but also the pump, distribution block, ALL the wiring and isolated fuse box, PLUS the wiring and sensors to each of the wheels, it definitely takes up a lot of space!



so in most cases (people with stockish cars inquiring about removing ABS) it is MUCH simpler to just disable the system electronically instead of tearing EVERYthing out. also if its already working fine in the first place, the safety benefit it provides (it WAS invented for a reason) is usually worth just saving the work, and leaving it in to do its job.


in the cases where people are rebuilding cars to their own preference and already have everything out (or easily accessible) it could be worth the swap, if its not a feature of the car that you would like to retain. especially if it doesnt even work in the first place. and definitely if you got all the parts free like i did :P


if you dont have a specific/personal reason why you want to remove it, you may want to leave it, as it may save you/your car someday. but hey we all make compromises as we mod...

[c mak]

I got a 92 EX with ABS. I don't like it, so I just unplugged the ABS computer in the trunk for now. I like it alot better. Plus, I think with my front big brake setup, I believe that I can stop better and faster! I just can't hit the brakes too hard, cuz I will lock up the front tires. LOL

[PR CB7]

hey mike
how much time it took u to do the conversion????
and as far as level in expertixe

cuz i know how tho bleed master cyliders

do all kind of brake work

but never have converted a car from abs to regular

is it a pain in the ass

or just replace

and bleeed?

[deevergote]

Just replace and bleed. Once you remove the ABS stuff, you only have to worry about installing the non-abs stuff. If you know how to work on brakes, and have the tools to do so, it's easy.

Converting from non to ABS would be difficult... the other way around... not so much.


You're removing a complex electronic/hydraulic system and replacing it with a fairly simple hydraulic system.

[PR CB7]

so with the abs harnesses wats up with that

cuz i see them like going into the main harness?

[cp[mike]]

so with the abs harnesses wats up with that

cuz i see them like going into the main harness?

snip snip!

[kmartxxx]

sounds easy i had to disconnet the abs on my car casue i did a rotor of hub conversion on my 93 lx non abs and when i bought my 92 ex just swaps knockles out and didnt know that it was that easy to remove the abs completely... :-D

[sulimed]

i got three teg 40/40 valves.
PM me if you need one.

[street_beauty90]

well what about if your swaping a 92" f22a6 motor to a 90 4dr ex? how will i take the ABS away? or will i not have to?

[NAiL05]

ABS has nothing to do with the motor.

[GreenMadness]

ABS is a safety feature for people that arn't very good at driving. not being offensive but there is a large range of driving abliity... ABS is a computer that mimics good drivers ablilty to threashold brake allowing them to slow down and change direction at the same time.

- most of the general public has no clue when it comes to keeping control of a car... even worse, the only real way to learn is by throwing your car out of control in safe environments (parkinglots... which is illegal). So instead they made a computer so that everyone, even idiots could swerve out of they way of small children.


- I belive its been proven that ABS INCREASES stopping distance, but you retain the ablility to turn the whole time, supposedly making it safer.

[deevergote]

You can NEVER pump the brakes as fast as an ABS system. The ABS in my GTP has saved me a few times already. Without it, I wouldn't have been able to stop. I'm used to the lighter CB7, so I brake later than I should with that heavy car sometimes.