eibach sportlines noticeable?

[H23Accord]

alrighty guys the thing is i want to lower my car.... not a lot at all just a little to close in on the wheel well gap. but my dad is frigin psycho about lowering the car making every excuse up in the world why i cant lower it. im gonna keep the stock struts to keep it form lowering to far and use either eibach sportlines or the pro kit. will it be that noticeable to where if he sees the car he will notice it? thanks guys and if theres any members with this setup please post a pic for reference thanks.

What excuses is your dad making for not lowering the car? He is probably well aware of all the drawbacks that come with lowering a car but they are not always negative plus there is a suspension setup that will rebuttle just about every excuse he has unless he plain out does not want you messing with the suspension.
I have owned the pro kit for about a week and the drop is lower in the rear than in the front. Are all you are trying to do is close up wheel gap or do you have alterior motives you are seeking as well? As mentioned above by Deckeda there are a few ways to close up wheel gap. Higher profile tires is one way. This means you don't have to lower the car and you get less wheel gap and Dad has a stock height car still.
You mentioned that you are going to use stock struts. This may not be your answer as older struts may not perform as well and may even begin to sit at a different height than originally started. If you do plan on lowering it on stock struts your choices for springs is limited. The pro kit would be your best option based on the springs you mentioned interest in. Neuspeed also makes a spring that drops that car slightly called Sofsports but the drop is probably not even noticeable.
My father did not want me to lower the car either but I did it anyway and many suspension setups later I found 1 that is smooth enough for grandma to ride, sporty and low enough for me to handle, and high enough for dear old dad to get in and out without complaints should he decide to drive to the local grocery store.
If your car looks anything like your sig than it looks like you have a low hanging lip. This would probably be your personal biggest concern with lowering your car. Otherwise the Pro Kit (since you are pairing with stock shocks) would be your best bet. It is the happy medium that has a slightly lowered look as well as a tad bit sportier yet stock ride. Heck the slightly higher front than rear drop the Pro Kit gives may be what keeps you from scraping your lip.

[93twodoorLX]

i dropped my car 1.75f/1.5r and my dad of ALL dads didnt give me any shit...ask deevergote who helped me...we were both surprised cuz he knows the way he gets...now for on topic...try tein H-techs...they are a tiny bit pricey tho...but they are only .75 drop but it may not satisfy you cuttin back on wheels gap

-sean

[cp[mike]]

prokit is a pretty nice set of springs... they are black, and not noticable, and they drop it just enough to notice some of the gap missing, but not enough to look like the cars been really lowered too far. they are good springs, and ride nicely, ive had a set. they will also help you from killing your lip. if you want to hide them from your dad, roll them in mud before you install them

[seigneur_rayden]

ha i found some H&R springs that lower the car .75 front and rear

Why bother lowering the car for only .75 IMO that's just a waste of time and money. U want to close the wheel gap, either U slam the car or U install a big ass high profile tire.
Plus, it's Ur dad, he isn't going to kill ya 4 lowering a car Is he

[PakaloloHonda]

it's Ur dad, he isn't going to kill ya 4 lowering a car Is he

Hahaha .. my dad killed me 4 or 5 times when I was a kid .. and look .. I'm still here!!! ..

Go for the Sportline's babyyyy .. you only live once .. or twice .. or, 4 or 5 times ..

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[93accordtuner]

yeah the main reason my dad doesnt want it lowered is he thinks that if im in a wreck that im not covered if the height is altered. he still pays the insurance on it for me because i cant work a lot while im in college right now. he thinks i have to OK everything with him before i do it to my car. he says that if i lower it i start paying insurance again.... if i tell insurance about it then how much do you think the insurance will go up and i'll just tell him i'll pay the increase.

[GunRunner]

I can understand him being concerned with the insurance covering it, but I doubt it will make a difference with your coverage.

My dad didn't want me to lower my accord but I bought the springs (H&R Sports) and all new struts (KYB AGX). After the car had been lowered for a week or so he rode with me and commented on how much better the car rode.


Most people (parents) get the idea that lowered cars/trucks all ride rough, and do nothing to help the car/trucks handling. This is because modifing imports is still a new thing to them (in my area anyway). When my dad was young he had a Dodge Challenger, I hear him talking about big motors and all that horsepower, but never any handling. I guess this is because they were made for straight line speed and not handling. Anyway my point is that if you spend the money and get good quality parts the handling and the ride quality will improve.
End Rant

[deckeda]

93accordtuner, it's time to have a chat with your Dad. Here's the thing. He's concerned and has a right to be. What he isn't, is informed --- and that's where the weird excuses come from. That's where your homework here comes into play.

If his concern about insurance is real, a simple phone call will answer that question. But I seriously doubt modifying the car would cause rates to go up. It's your age, where you drive, when you drive, what you do (tickets etc.) that determine rates. No, they don't give a flyin' flip if you lower it, put on a CAI or a turbo.

But a simple phone call will let Dad understand, but more importantly it will also prove to him that you understand where he's coming from --- hey, it's his money afterall!

But call, or have him call, and ask. Simple as that. And then it's done and you can move on to the next issue. Be methodical, mature --- not whiny. Not saying you are or have been, just that kids who are whiny or sneaky will never get what they really want in the end.

Parents pick up on maturity and thoroughness, so be that. If you still aren't supported, you're stuck until you can make your own way. Life will go on without a lowered car.

Summary: Pro-Kits or the 0.75" HR springs (Neuspeed makes some mild ones too) will allow your stock struts to survive a while --- but save your $$ for that ASAP.

If you had the $$ right now for better struts I'd say get Sportlines or whatever you really want, because if you do what I said above, trying to hide behind a mild drop won't be necessary.

[GREENCB3]

I'd go with the sportlines or something like the h&r that lower it from the 1.5-1.75 range.A .75 is not even worth your money cuz you can't tell if it's lowered.Just don't go over 2 inches or you'll have camber problems and need a camber kit.

[crewfish13]

My parents would have probably though I was crazy if I wanted to go off modifying my car at random. However, now that I compete in sanctioned SCCA autocross events, they understand that I'm modifying my car for a specific purpose and actually are interested to hear what I'm doing (or planning to do) to the car and how that helps the car on the track.

Now, I wouldn't try to do something behind your father's back. Not only will it bite you in teh butt in the long run (such as you having to pay insurance), but it reeks of immaturity. Just let him know what you want to do, why, and show him you've done the research. Not many people can make excuses against a well thought-out argument. Besides, properly modifying your car can actually make it SAFER, by increasing its accident avoidance capabilities.

[cb7rolln]

i have a great idea just get some good coilovers like ground control or skunk2 and just keep them at a higher stance as your dad doesn't know that you can adjust them, then just gradually lower the car! just a thought. my parents weren't thrilled until they drove my first lowered accord then they understood. just say it's safer, less body roll. the only time my dad freaked out was about a 95civic coupe i had that was slammed with mad camber. "your going to ruin your tires! when are you going to get those things! a a camber kit yeah that's what you said!" "dad i am just going to sell the civic and get a new car...." good luck man!

[Half-Pint]

Hey Mike or anyone who has run eibach sportlines on stock shocks; how long did they last before blowing the stock shocks??

[JTEK24]

I'd go with the sportlines or something like the h&r that lower it from the 1.5-1.75 range.A .75 is not even worth your money cuz you can't tell if it's lowered.Just don't go over 2 inches or you'll have camber problems and need a camber kit.

So with these springs, there is no extra expenses...just 1.5-1.75 springs. I thought that it was manditory for you to get a camber kit anyway reading from the FAQ thread. Cool then I am now thinking about it