Need Turbo Help!Mayb Boosting MY f22a6

[MRX]

i still don't quite understand. What does a dyno tell you about your engine and how its running specifically? And how i would know my tuners have the knowlegde that it takes to tune a turbo honda. Why can't i just tune it myself? What specifically wouldn't i be able to see that the tuners would?

[h22sparkle]

If you dont understand than you probably wont ever . You can tell how by another persons car runs and how long it lasts proving that that other person doesnt run their car into the ground and on top of that how long it lasts.

There knowledge wold depend on how long the motor lasts and how many people they have that can vouch for them and that have there cars tuned for them and do they work on their own cars aswell with it. How many years have you been in the tuning game. You can go ahead and do the shit yourself but when you blow it up i bet you wont come on here and tell everyone that.

[MRX]

i still don't quite understand. What does a dyno tell you about your engine and how its running specifically? What specifically wouldn't i be able to see that the tuners would? The dyno that Blazen_Accord went to was certified and he said he'd seen plenty of high horsepower long-lasting cars come out of their shop.

[h22sparkle]

You wont undertstand it now then you never will i advice you to tune it yourself then blow it up then come back and tell everyone yo i blew my shit up thankyou. Are you a expert at tuning your car yes or no. The shop didnt put on his turbo how should they know what he did to it. Maybe the setup the other guy used and his are 2 completely different things its a shop. They tune it for you maybe the dude was in a rush and was probably being bugged out havin blazin accord bug him or watchin him hard which in turn made him nervous and blew his shit up.

Or maybe blazin went got some cheap gas and blew it up touch a button blew it up or had it tuned himself ran it fucked up for a long time engine saw what was happening and weakened ,and then blew up, he ran a evo though he could keep up with it and blew up ,over-revved it and blew up forgot to check the oil and water then blew it up,tryed to drift like on initial-d and blew it up,ran a h22 off the line and blew it up, looked at a allmotor h22 pushin a good amout of hp and blew up. Or maybe he had it tuned right tried to mess with it and blew up,had it runnin right after the shop tuned it listened to someone on the board sayin they dont need a aftermarket pump and fpr and blew it up,or tuning it well then turned to it while he was chillin pointed at it like yeah and blew it up.

[pwrusr]

Originally posted by midnite racer x
i still don't quite understand. What does a dyno tell you about your engine and how its running specifically? What specifically wouldn't i be able to see that the tuners would? The dyno that Blazen_Accord went to was certified and he said he'd seen plenty of high horsepower long-lasting cars come out of their shop.

Well I'll tell you the basics. at the dyno tune shop they hook up to your car via a wideband O2 senser. they will tune it via the dyno and tune the car via a computer of some type be it a laptop hooked up to a hondata setup, a SAFC, a vafc, Uberdata or perhaps a standalone rig like AEM (there are more but those are the most popular).
they run the car through the dyno and tune it to a good air fuel ratio.

that's pretty much the basics. get your car tuned as soon as you can after you get the new setup in or what Sparkle said WILL happen, it's only a matter of time. and remember turbo setups are costly to maintaine. oil changes every 1500-2k miles is only the begining of the list of stuff to keep up.

[deevergote]

Eh, I agree and disagree at the same time.... Dyno tuning IS necessary for the most power. However, someone who knows enough about engine management (and their engine) won't blow anything if they don't try to push it too hard. Antoine, I know you're running 8psi, and working towards 10, right? At those levels, a dyno isn't all that necessary. It could help, but your engine isn't at stake if you don't.

As for blazen_accord... I met him before he blew his engine, so I know what kind of guy he is. He's not one to mess with anything he shouldn't mess with. What happened was that the shop he took his car to leaned out his fuel mixture too much for whatever reason. He got one hell of a power boost, then BOOM! It WAS them... no one is perfect. In the shop's defense, blazen didn't really have the greatest system design going either... I'm curious to see what he's up to now. He isn't around nearly as much now!

[h22sparkle]

I wouldnt be on that much either if i blew my joint up too he probably had a bad tuner. leaned out boom pointed at it boom dayum forshame

[cp[mike]]

Originally posted by h22sparkle
leaned out boom pointed at it boom dayum forshame

...what?

[Accord R33]

HAHAHAHAHAH oh my god this thread is funny.

MRX a noob..hahahahahaha

[Accord R33]

Originally posted by pwrusr
Well I'll tell you the basics. at the dyno tune shop they hook up to your car via a wideband O2 senser. they will tune it via the dyno and tune the car via a computer of some type be it a laptop hooked up to a hondata setup, a SAFC, a vafc, Uberdata or perhaps a standalone rig like AEM (there are more but those are the most popular).
they run the car through the dyno and tune it to a good air fuel ratio.

that's pretty much the basics. get your car tuned as soon as you can after you get the new setup in or what Sparkle said WILL happen, it's only a matter of time. and remember turbo setups are costly to maintaine. oil changes every 1500-2k miles is only the begining of the list of stuff to keep up.

wait a min. i have a Wideband o2 sensor at home...i also have uberdata. doesnt this mean i can do all this at home?

[theone]

for my man Blaze defense (Tom)
he went thru i think 2 motors.

either wasnt from neglecting it (the motor)
first motor was from fucking it up, racing a WRX he crank the boost to 14psi i think while running stock injectors and FMU set up....no,no
second he brought a new f22, had the boost installed
got it tuned at one of our local shops...

what happened was the tuners said....oh if we lean it out, right on the perfect and lean edge u'lll gain 20 more hp to was he was already gaining, which he did but the egine couldnt hadle it leaning out like it was so it blew.

im not gona knock tuning by shop or street tuning, for me
im going to the shop (find a good one 1st) main reason is because i dont know to much about it and i dont have the neccessary equipment to do it. but if i did i would street tune.

moral here is just because there consider a "certified shop" doesnt mean they know what they're doing as far as tuning YOUR particular car.
the shop Blaze went to could have just tuned a Teg the week before and it ran perfect so when Blaze brought his cb7 in, they might have been like, let do the same, its a honda.......but that doesnt mean jack.

the first shop he went to told him he doesnt need and intercooler (hot air turbo) so dont get one, but after driving the car some ways it started to f up from all the hot air so he got one. and it drove fine after (until he went to the other shop to get it tuned)


so im saying if u choose shop.....shop around first.....u do street......make sure u kno ur shit.....my man midnite seems like he knows his street tuning shit....some things you say make me be like .....ah.......

[Accord R33]

the way i see it is this...I know more about my CB7 than ANY SHOP in the world is ever going to know about it. i dont know jack shit about tunning other cars, but i know my CB7 and thats all that matters. the shop knows a little about a bunch of different cars but not nearly as much specificly.

[theone]

Originally posted by Accord R33
the way i see it is this...I know more about my CB7 than ANY SHOP in the world is ever going to know about it. i dont know jack shit about tunning other cars, but i know my CB7 and thats all that matters. the shop knows a little about a bunch of different cars but not nearly as much specificly.

right on point with that one....

[h22sparkle]

damn he must have had a really bad tuner. Oh wait he must have had a bad tuner hence really shitty shop ohwell. If you know how to street tune go ahead be my guess but remember just one time and here comes the boom,here comes the boom.


Thats funny shops out here do it up all day and have their shits tuned for some people who may figure hey leme cheap out and go do it the hard way and blow my shit up or maybe there isnt shit out there where they live at so they figure imma do it myself to save some dough and bang back to the junkyard. And trust me there are people who know more about our cars than you think you just havent found em yet. On top of that when boosted and buttdyno streettuning it hmmm have you ran your car hard lately why only in third gear in the video i though you were booosted wassuuuuuuuuup playa get some track vids, Just push it to redline,if not just like i thought

[MRX]

Man, i'm still clueless but i wanna learn. Please teach me sparkle. U seem to know everything that it takes to maintain great running engines so help me out. Maybe i can even get my car to u so u can dyno tune it with ur expertise. You haven't answered all of my questions tho
What does a dyno tell you about your engine besides air/fuel ratio's and how its running specifically? What specifically wouldn't i be able to see that the tuners would?

You've been doing this for a long time and all tuners had to start somewhere. Well i just wanna follow in ur footsteps and be as great as you. Please lead me.