f22b1 head on my f22a1 block?

[jakethesnake110]

ive been in the honda game for a couple years now and i just recently got my first accord. im learning on them.. i have a 90 accord coupe with a pretty much stock f22a1 in it.. i was wondering if u could put a f22b1 head on the f22a1 block.. kinda like the d15/d16 mini me swaps? does this work the same? or does this not work at all? or is it a waste? etc? thanks alot.

[cbh23]

ive been in the honda game for a couple years now and i just recently got my first accord. im learning on them.. i have a 90 accord coupe with a pretty much stock f22a1 in it.. i was wondering if u could put a f22b1 head on the f22a1 block.. kinda like the d15/d16 mini me swaps? does this work the same? or does this not work at all? or is it a waste? etc? thanks alot.

I'm not sure of the work but i do know the f22a out flows the b. Poor valve angles and i believe the valves are even smaller

[jakethesnake110]

im assuming thats why i havnt heard of this.. lol.. just looking for a cheapish swap.. ive heard h22 swaps.. blah blah blah.. i wana be different lol.. and h"s arent cheap..

[Jarrett]

The valves are the same size but yes, the F22A head is the better of the two. Most of this improvement is realized after light portwork and better cam options. Also, read this:

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...t=frankenstein

[deevergote]

Don't do a headswap. There is nothing to be gained. If you want a new engine, get a complete engine.

Read the "sticky" thread in the Swaps section for all swap options. If what you want is more than you can afford right now, save your milk money and buy it when you can. Do it right. Halfassing will only yield a problematic car that will be in the junkyard 6 months from now.
Keep one thing in mind: This isn't said in any of the "sticky" threads, but all the seemingly special OBD2 engines, such as the H22 Type S, H22 Euro R, H23A VTEC, and F20B may seem really cool... but being OBD2, they come with their own complications (as in, there are no OBD1 ECUs that will run them properly...) My advice is to just get a basic H22A.

I spent 9 months saving for my H22, budgeting every penny as I worked part time (I was a full time student at the time.) I bought it from www.hmotorsonline.com, the only truly trustworthy online engine seller in the US or Canada, and that H22A is still running today (well... it's been parked for a while... but it'll be running tomorrow!)
Was the wait annoying? Absolutely. Am I glad I waited and did it right? No halfassing, no buying a cheapo engine with bent valves, etc...? You betcha.

[jakethesnake110]

yea i hear ya man.. but i just dont think i want to spend that kinda money on a swap thats only 30 hp that whats in my cb7 now. lol...

[Accord problems]

yea i hear ya man.. but i just dont think i want to spend that kinda money on a swap thats only 30 hp that whats in my cb7 now. lol...

then on that not stay stock . these engine's do not last long when mixing things like the head . keep it stock or spend the mony swap or buil this one . piston's , valve's , cam , port and polish ,larger intake, maby turbo. ect..ect... and makeing sure its done right . haveing done bye a shop that does it cheap is like fucking a hoocker with out rubber and hopeing you dont get aids . so what ever you do do right no franken stein .

[deevergote]

yea i hear ya man.. but i just dont think i want to spend that kinda money on a swap thats only 30 hp that whats in my cb7 now. lol...

30? You mean 75. How much power do you think your car has?

[Accord problems]

yea i hear ya man.. but i just dont think i want to spend that kinda money on a swap thats only 30 hp that whats in my cb7 now. lol...

that made my morning
if you done some work then i would be on your side . until then they have way more power then 30 over what we have.

[jakethesnake110]

i was referring to the h22 that was 160hp.. the f22a1 puts out like 125ish? maybe a lil less.. honestly ive always wondered about the head swap. that was my only real issue.. all the other shit i know. im not new to hondas. just accords. lol.. ive been messing with Da's a whole lot and Efs.. this is just a lil different.but thanx. now i know that the head swap isnt worth it. itll prolly just stay stock.. maybe a header and a few bolt ons. still a heavy car and wont be the slightest bit quick.. lol.. but its my daily.. thanx again guys.

[mtnbikaah]

H22a puts out about 200hp at the crank.

[AAPOQ]

i was referring to the h22 that was 160hp.. the f22a1 puts out like 125ish? maybe a lil less.. honestly ive always wondered about the head swap. that was my only real issue.. all the other shit i know. im not new to hondas. just accords. lol.. ive been messing with Da's a whole lot and Efs.. this is just a lil different.but thanx. now i know that the head swap isnt worth it. itll prolly just stay stock.. maybe a header and a few bolt ons. still a heavy car and wont be the slightest bit quick.. lol.. but its my daily.. thanx again guys.

H22a puts down 200hp...just sayin

[deevergote]

There is no 160hp H22.

They put down about 165 to the wheels, but your F22A1 puts down 100-110...


The right mods on an F22A can easily put a daily driven CB7 into the 13s. The car may be heavy compared to a DA or EG, but it's pretty damn light by today's standards... and the engines available for it are bigger and more powerful than most Civic/Integra options.
It'll never be quick if you're cheap and halfassed about it, though.

[jakethesnake110]

and my fault fellas u guys are correct... i was thinkin h23a.. it puts out 160ish.. but any whoo.. no big deal. nothing worth arguing over. i enjoy my cb7. it looks good and runs good. ill drive it till the wheels fall off lol.

[Accord problems]

and my fault fellas u guys are correct... i was thinkin h23a.. it puts out 160ish.. but any whoo.. no big deal. nothing worth arguing over. i enjoy my cb7. it looks good and runs good. ill drive it till the wheels fall off lol.

In 1998, Honda of Japan produced a rare DOHC VTEC version of the H23A engine for use in Japan only. It has been factory modified with an internal oil passage in the H23A block to operate the VTEC solenoid in the H22A head. Having the same horsepower rating as the H22A engine but it has a lower redline because it has a longer stroke than H22A. H23A DOHC VTEC has 87mm x 95mm (bore and stroke)and the H22A DOHC VTEC has 87mm x 90.7mm (bore and stroke). The H23A DOHC VTEC Engine is largest displacement in the H Series engines with a compression ratio of 10.6:1.

Found in the Japanese 1998-2002 Accord Wagon SiR (CH9). It produces 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) & 163 lb·ft (221 N·m) and comes with a "blue top". Found in the Japanese 1998-2002 Accord Wagon AWD (CL2). It produces 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) & 163 lb·ft (221 N·m) and comes with a "blue top".