F22a6 boosting????

[Brianerstad5]

I currently have a 92 ex with the engine having 209,000 miles... what specifically would I need to replace to safely run 6 psi of boost????

[cbh23]

I don't think you'll see any power with that. I believe the stock block can hold around 8. First thing I suggest is tuning up your f and look at bisi for some boost friendly parts. Please don't cheap out on your set up. I GOOD turbo set will be needed with a even better tune. Piece together your kit. Sure you can get a ebay kit for cheap but that would probably blow up on you sometime. After that good a ecu like the p06 I believe its from a civic that can be chipped and tuned for your car.

[GeoffM]

I currently have a 92 ex with the engine having 209,000 miles... what specifically would I need to replace to safely run 6 psi of boost????

What's safe?
The higher the mileage the more likely something is to break.
Do you want to hit 400k, or just drive around for a year or so(Not guaranteeing that).

[Brianerstad5]

well i was just wondering because this summer me and my dad are pulling the engine out and changing basically everything with new parts... i was just wondering if i could run boost with stock parts before i make the replacements

[toycar]

well i was just wondering because this summer me and my dad are pulling the engine out and changing basically everything with new parts... i was just wondering if i could run boost with stock parts before i make the replacements

Just a suggestion with your plans and question in mind;

For a hundred and fifty bux I picked up a complete longblock f22a6, in useable condition. A perfect candidate for a rebuild. I tossed it on the engine stand and have been buying the goods for the rebuild.

Meanwhile, I had installed a DSM turbo setup on my car, using a ramhorn manifold and an evo 3 16g turbo. Ive been tuning on the old, 191,000 mile engine. Its getting beaten to shit working the bugs out of my tune. All the shitty shit you deal with when tuning a car, is damaging the old motor, not the new one. So what if it blows, who cares.

By the time(July) I plan to swap the rebuilt engine into the car, the original motor will have taken all the damage working the kinks out of my tune could have thrown at it. Dont get me wrong, the old motor might blow before I get my tune done, but I feel about 75% good about where the tune is at and Im not smoking/leaking/knocking so Im feeling like its gonna make it.

Then, new motor goes in, tune on the turbo system is/should be already worked out and VIOLA!

Good motor+good tune=good times. Its easy to ruine an engine while tuning if your not carefull, so I always tune with the idea Im going to break some shit. Id rather break something on the old, POS motor then the new, nicely built with aftermarket goodies motor.


Just my suggestion-thats how I roll

[GeoffM]

How into it are you getting? If you're replacing the internals then you'll be ok. I thought you just wanted to slap a turbo on it and call it good.
Check out Bisimoto for F22 parts. Google him or look in the top right hand corner for his ad.
Expensive though

[toycar]

How into it are you getting? If you're replacing the internals then you'll be ok. I thought you just wanted to slap a turbo on it and call it good.
Check out Bisimoto for F22 parts. Google him or look in the top right hand corner for his ad.
Expensive though

I disagree.

Bisi gets alot of flack on his prices from this community. He is not the most expensive on the market though. Hes competitive in the higher end market price points, and honestly-hes got the best service in the industry. He will build your parts, for your setup. Not like," I got XXX cam." He wants to know what you have going on so he can grind/build your shit best for your application.

Nobody in the industry offers that type of work ethic/support/involvment in their products, for his prices. I agree its expensive to a new guy in the car scene, but its very reasonable in terms of quality/ fair market value.

Car hobbys are expensive-not Bisi.

[deevergote]

It's the super-cheap garbage that you can find on the internet (largely on ebay) that gives the REAL companies their 'expensive' reputation. People see the rock-bottom prices for the poorly-made crap on ebay, and then they balk at the prices for quality parts, which can often be twice as much.

Bisi's parts are very good, and he (and his staff) are extremely knowledgeable about the F22A... therefore, you are not only getting quality parts, but the people selling them to you know exactly what you're doing with them.



Anyway, it's impossible to say how long your old high-mileage engine is going to hold up to even low boost. First, you need to figure out how healthy the engine is. Do a compression test. Fix any oil leaks that are present. Replace any obviously worn or damaged components. All this is going to cost money that could be going into a rebuild... Make sure the engine is as strong as it can be before you even consider putting a turbo on it.
Next, you need to plan out exactly what parts you are going to use (6psi with one turbo is considerably different from 6psi with another...) The turbo, intercooler, injectors, etc... Using a good sized turbo, good intercooler, and proper (size and function) injectors will be much different than if you use a tiny turbo, crappy intercooler, and small (or poorly functioning) injectors.

Finally, and possibly most importantly, you will need to get a tunable ECU, and tune it properly for your turbo. Not some generic chip, but a custom tune for YOUR motor. The tools to do it yourself aren't cheap, and the learning curve is steep... though being able to do it yourself is valuable, and will save money in the long run if you plan on pursuing this hobby for a few years. Of course, if you learn yourself, I wouldn't start with a turbo motor... tune your stock motor first, because it's much harder to blow that up!
If you don't want to do it yourself, then find someone that can do it for you. A shop with a dyno is the best option, though a good tuner can do it on the street as well. You won't have every last bit of power, but it can at least be tuned to be safe with a street-tune.

Also, although it's not involving the engine... you WILL need a new clutch, as an old stock one (especially if it's original at that mileage!) will be toast very quickly with the added torque of even a low-boost turbo setup Additionally, you'll want to make sure your brakes, tires, axles, and suspension (shocks, springs, and necessary bushings and ball joints) are all in very good condition.


toycar's suggestion of building a spare motor on the side, while figuring out what it takes to boost your car with the old stock motor is a very good idea. I'm actually doing the same thing myself (though I'm quite a bit behind... my car has been off the road for 2.5 years!)