No brakes after bleeding??

[markrutherford]

So i did my front pads today and ive been needing to bleed my system since i got it(4-5months). So i started in the back going back driver to back passenger,front passenger to front driver as you should and now i got no brakes! Im lost for words ....I dont have ABS and the master was replaced before me. I have too put it all the way down to the floor to stop slowely. What might it be? Oh and when i push in the breaks when its off it makes a click noise Its done it since i got it

[GeoffM]

The click is normal. That is a mechanism disengaging to allow you to shift once the brake is pushed.

One question: Can you pump up the brakes to make them work?
If so: Bleed them again. It didn't work.
If not: Master cylinder time!

Also check: Collapsed lines and that you put the brakes back together properly. You know, like with grease

Edit: If you pump them up all the way/not at all and the pedal still falls to the floor, THEN it's M/C time.

[markrutherford]

The click is normal. That is a mechanism disengaging to allow you to shift once the brake is pushed.

One question: Can you pump up the brakes to make them work?
If so: Bleed them again. It didn't work.
If not: Master cylinder time!

Also check: Collapsed lines and that you put the brakes back together properly. You know, like with grease

Edit: If you pump them up all the way/not at all and the pedal still falls to the floor, THEN it's M/C time.

Well you know when the car is off and you pump the brakes afew times it will get nice and stiff? Well you can pump this pedal all day and it will just go to the floor! So im thinking i do need a master cylinder then. The one thats on looks brand new but im sure the owner before me just cleaned it up real nicely

[GeoffM]

That sounds about right. Or you have a leaky line. If you have any brakes at all try to make it to a Midas or other shop. Call ahead to make sure the diagnosis is free.

[markrutherford]

Ive looked all over my lines. Im gonna put off my drum tomorrow and see if my Wheel Cylinders are leaking at all. But im pretty sure its the M/C becasue i havent ever had to put more fluid into the reservoir since ive owned it meaning i dont have a leak. Well atleast it would be a very very slow leak.

[peekin]

i could be way off but i know if you had the lines off i think you have to bleed the master cylinder as well, i know dodge trucks are like that i had to do mine yesterday.
take the lines off the master, hold your fingers over the holes, get someone to pump the brake slowly and air will come out , not sure like i said but i know the dodge is like that just something to check if you had the lines off or drained the master

[red07frontier]

Odds are bro if your brakes worked fine before you went to bleed them and now the pedal goes to the floor then you most likely got air in the lines. I'm not saying it isn't your master, but try bleeding it out a few more times first.

[markrutherford]

i could be way off but i know if you had the lines off i think you have to bleed the master cylinder as well, i know dodge trucks are like that i had to do mine yesterday.
take the lines off the master, hold your fingers over the holes, get someone to pump the brake slowly and air will come out , not sure like i said but i know the dodge is like that just something to check if you had the lines off or drained the master

Well I did take the lines off but im not sure if Honda is like that I know for my old chevys and buicks i had to bleed it from the M/C

Odds are bro if your brakes worked fine before you went to bleed them and now the pedal goes to the floor then you most likely got air in the lines. I'm not saying it isn't your master, but try bleeding it out a few more times first.

Well before i did my brakes i would have to push it almost to the floor to stop and now it goes all the way down to the floor. Ill pick up a M/C and ill bleed the whole system again and if nothing ill swap in the M/C....Off topic is there a DIY on it?

[GeoffM]

Probably, but it's very simple.
Line wrenches for the brake lines. Sockets for the nuts holding the M/C onto the vacuum booster.
Loosen brake lines, then unbolt from Vacuum. Undo brake lines all the way.
Put a baggie over brake lines.
Bench bleed new M/C.
Hand tighten lines, then bolt to Vacuum boost. Line wrench tighten lines. Bleed whole system.

Bleed order is:
Back left, Front right, Back right, Front left.

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