Replacment bushings

[richie92ex]

Im about to put my rak 501 setup in my car, but before I do, I wanted to tackle all of the bushings- it just seems like if im going that route then the bushings need to be done as well. My question is that I have found the Energy suspensions "master kit" and its all great and dandy but it dose not come with radius rod bushings, or any of the rear arm, or rear trailing arm bushings. I guess ball joints will be replaced in the camber kits, but I would like good radius rod and rear bushings, do i have to use regular autozone stuff, or are there polyurethane counterparts available? Thanks for any help.

[js593]

Im about to put my rak 501 setup in my car, but before I do, I wanted to tackle all of the bushings- it just seems like if im going that route then the bushings need to be done as well. My question is that I have found the Energy suspensions "master kit" and its all great and dandy but it dose not come with radius rod bushings, or any of the rear arm, or rear trailing arm bushings. I guess ball joints will be replaced in the camber kits, but I would like good radius rod and rear bushings, do i have to use regular autozone stuff, or are there polyurethane counterparts available? Thanks for any help.

Moog usually uses the same type of iruthane bushings that Energy Suspension makes, they are VERY good bushings at that. All moog have Lifetime warranty, if anything goes bad with it, get your reciept, and bam, new part. Moog is considered a Step1+ to OEM spec's, they are always slightly better in some way. When it comes to bushings, i wouldnt cheap out, get the best that you can.

[JohnD1079]

can i ask why your choosing polyurthane over OEM rubber? Please dont tell me its bc everyone is swinging on their nuts

[richie92ex]

From what i understand, the polyurethane are known to be better, last longer and be a little tighter, or more sporty if you will. Unless i have been told wrong that is.

[JohnD1079]

From what i understand, the polyurethane are known to be better, last longer and be a little tighter, or more sporty if you will. Unless i have been told wrong that is.

It depends one what your looking for.

If you want to feel the road texture, every single crack and pebble on the road, the polyurethane is for you. True steering is more tighter, but they will not last as long. Think about it, its basically a plastic compund with no give. Its going to break down a lot faster.

If this is a daily driven car, i highly doubt polyurethane would be a better choice, but its up to you. Half of the people the recommend polyurethane, dont even know wtf it is, and just hopping on the bandwagon.

[Pandemic]

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/moog...uck-85205.html

[cp[mike]]

my ES master kit came with front radius rod bushings... youre talking about the large ones through the crossmember, right? because the ES kit is short of the rear, look into the Prothane line of bushings... they sell all the rear ones, along with a full F&R kit. though the ureethane they use is stiffer/harder than the ES kit. i mixed the softer ES up front, and the harder Prothane in the rear. replace the balljoints and they will all have new boots, but ES also includes poly boots. i dont personally find it uncomfortable driving on the street... i think its a very nice improvement...


edit: p.s. my moog lower strut mount bushing was slightly oversized and a pain to fit, the other off-brand i used previously was machined perfectly

[richie92ex]

Understandable. however, I don't mind if my car dose not ride like a Cadillac. I want the thing to go where its pointed. I don't mind a harsh ride if it preforms another words, but I would mind a bs no name coil over on a blown stock strut type of ride. I just want it to be a fun car to drive aggressively, and I'm willing to give up comfort for performance. Honestly, I ride a 05' gsxr 600 with aggressive fork/ shock valving on the street every week if theres no rain and I don't sweet it if thats any comparison. Id be willing to try the rubber stuff if you think it would do the trick, after all , I have over 1200 bucks in suspension crap already and it may save me a few bucks, idk. I do know I want to replace all of the bushings however, there some 16 years old, and in bad shape!!! is there any complete (including it all) kits out there?

[richie92ex]

Thank you mike

[DriftProjectR]

i would go with the prothane kit. i just had mine installed last week on my car. it came with every bushing, but the rear arm holder. i bought the OEM ones for 10 bucks, a total of $20 from the dealer.

personally i like the new tightness i feel in the steering. IMO i dont think poly bushings make the ride really ruff, then again my other car is a lotus where you feel every little crack in the road .

the bushings also come with a lifetime warranty. i have friends who track there cars with the same bushing kit and the bushings are not even showing wear after about a year of hard track use. i really dont think they wear down fast, IMO.

[JohnD1079]

If that is your stand on what you want, then i would recommend the poly kit,

Prothane would be easier bc they are a more "complete" set just becasue it includes the rear.

[nusdogg]

it's a pain trying to remove the rear lower control arm bushing where the strut mounts go. some of them its hard to get to but a few are easy.