auto -> manual trans swap question.

[cvandulken]

I did have a 4th gen accord at one time(well half of it). i'm not new to hondas in general. but i did come accross somthing rather annoying.

the engine i'm working with is a f22a6 from a 92 EX-R
if you look at the pic below, theres a small pin in the crank to line up the tq converter plate, i assume so you dont get the timing markings wrong.



the flywheel is from a 90 lx f22a1... i was told there should be a hole for that little pin to go in... but there isnt... i will line up the markings accordingly using the underpully..

SO.. i tried pulling it with pliers, vice grips, channel locks, bolt cutters etc.. it wont budge, so i stopped incase i will end up wrecking it.

can i just grind it off and call it a day?

i have a h22 flywheel still bolted to its block. do those have a hole that would match this?

thanks in advance.

[benji]

My F22A flywheel had the hole, as did my H22A. You don't have the flywheel backwards, do you?

You might try and get a different flywheel from a junkyard or something. I'd try to keep that pin, because it is still nice to have the timing marks available to you.

Also, it looks like you need a rear main seal.

[cp[mike]]

all stock flywheels should all have a hole to match that peg.

[cvandulken]

i'll check the flywheel again tonight for like the third time... i DO know which way it goes on lol

it didnt have a hole... but i will check again cuz maybe i'm retarded.

does that seal pop off as it sits? or does that cover have to come off first?

[benji]

i'll check the flywheel again tonight for like the third time... i DO know which way it goes on lol

it didnt have a hole... but i will check again cuz maybe i'm retarded.

does that seal pop off as it sits? or does that cover have to come off first?

Just checking on the direction thing, you never know. I've forgotten much worse.

The seal should just come out easy, just jab a screwdriver into it and then pry it out. There is a tool for it, basically a hook, but you don't really need it if you don't already have one. Be careful not to scratch the surfaces that the seal covers, or else it might leak later on. Be sure to get the new one flush.

[cvandulken]

this is to certify that i'm not going insane.




so there is no hole for the pin thats in the crank... so do i grind it off?
also i pulled the h22 flywheel... and its much bigger than the f22a6 one.
so thats a no go.

also i had a q about the rear engine mount.



there is a vac pod on it. that pulls on a lever. looks like it can make the mount hard or soft..... does this have something to do with the sport/econo shift button?


i'm ordering a rear seal tomorow for it. even tho i have no idea if the motor runs or not... but if it does, i might as well change it.. and if not o well its only like 4 bux

reason i dont know if it runs below . all i know is it has 490,000ks on it.

[benji]

You could use the H22 flywheel. It shouldn't be all that different from the F22 flywheel. How certain are you that you do indeed have an F22A flywheel? You said it came out of a 90 Accord, but did you pull it?

Also, if that motor has 490,000 Km (according to google 304,472 miles), you might want to look at doing some other maintenance. Or get a motor in better shape; most jy sell them for $150, which might be worth it.

[ChIoVnIdCa]

that flywheel has a pilot bearing... ... Doesn't look like a f/h flywheel.. defiantly not an oem h/f flywheel

[ChIoVnIdCa]

there is a vac pod on it. that pulls on a lever. looks like it can make the mount hard or soft..... does this have something to do with the sport/econo shift button?

No its an auto rear mount that helps with vibrations at idle

[ChIoVnIdCa]

reason i dont know if it runs below . all i know is it has 490,000ks on it.

I hope you got it for free

[cp[mike]]

that is definitely not an f22/h22 flywheel. h and f flywheels look the same and are the same size... what you have there is something entirely different.

[cvandulken]

You could use the H22 flywheel. It shouldn't be all that different from the F22 flywheel. How certain are you that you do indeed have an F22A flywheel? You said it came out of a 90 Accord, but did you pull it?

Also, if that motor has 490,000 Km (according to google 304,472 miles), you might want to look at doing some other maintenance. Or get a motor in better shape; most jy sell them for $150, which might be worth it.

actually i did pull it myself... altho now its got me bothered that its not an f series... as far as i knew it was the only laying around my shop aside the h22 flywheel... i could have it mixed up with something else... i will have to dig my parts bin tomorrow... i'm thinkin that the other guy that works at my garage probably left that one laying around and i have it confused... if i cant find it oh well... i will just use the h22 one.

oh and about the motor.. yea i didnt pay anything for it actually... i didnt pay anything for that front clip as a matter of fact.

No its an auto rear mount that help with vibrations at idle

oh and about the mount... thanks... i will just replace it with a normal one..

[cvandulken]

if that motor doesn't run, i will just get another one that does... since it was bolted to an auto trans... it cant be that bad LOL.

i do have the h22a1 engine, but it needs a rebuild and i dont quite have teh $ for that yet. so I'm just using the f22 as a temp to get the car running, then i will swap it out after.

this project is far from anything else i have done with my 3g, i've been told by a few people that I'm crazy or insane.

the weight of the car without me in it... I'm aiming for around 2000lb. it should go pretty good with this f22a6.. and even better with the h22.