Would using this be illegal?

[deevergote]

Ralphie, do you have any Israeli heritage, or is it just your religion that ties you to the region?


And we really fund Egypt a considerable amount? Don't they kinda hate us?

But yeah, America has been the big, rich, obnoxious "center of the universe" for so long that of course other countries hate us. Countries that have less feel that we're living lives of excess and indulgence (a big part of the reason the Muslim extremists hate us), and countries that are essentially our equal (or in some ways better) hate us because we give the impression that we look down on them (and in most cases, we probably do!)
I'll admit, growing up in the US and never leaving its borders my entire life, I honestly don't know what life is like elsewhere. Growing up in the 80s, where the USSR was still a force to be reckoned with, and film from any country but the US was grainy and poorly produced, I always had a feeling that living anywhere else was going to be a huge step down. Like, people elsewhere don't have freedom, and get asked for "papers" wherever they go. They live in tiny flats, drive shitty cars, and everything is in short supply. Whereas in the US, we have multiple big cars, big plots of land, 8 bedroom houses, a swimming pool in every back yard, and everybody can make their fortune.
Not true of either her nor there... but that was the impression I was given of the rest of the world as a child (save for Canada... then and now, I don't see much difference between the lifestyle of a Canadian and a US citizen.)

[stewie]

(save for Canada... then and now, I don't see much difference between the lifestyle of a Canadian and a US citizen.)

the biggest difference i see between a canadian and US is the real estate market...and its enough to make me sick to my stomach...in the paper last week, dozens of rich asians came to vancouver, went from the airport directly onto a guided helicopter tour and started buyiing properties...didnt even look at the houses..just from the above view...and since they're willing to pay 10x what its worth...its driving our market sky high to the point where i cant even afford to buy a house in my own city anymore...just today in the paper it showed a small 800sq ft house for sale...upstairs and a downstairs...2br 1bth room on each floor...house is being sold for 2.8 million......800 square fucking feet...

for me to compare that to say arizona where 400k gets you a beautiful sized house with a pool....it makes me want to kick some ass for people ruining our city...

[Ralphie]

Ralphie, do you have any Israeli heritage, or is it just your religion that ties you to the region?


And we really fund Egypt a considerable amount? Don't they kinda hate us?

But yeah, America has been the big, rich, obnoxious "center of the universe" for so long that of course other countries hate us. Countries that have less feel that we're living lives of excess and indulgence (a big part of the reason the Muslim extremists hate us), and countries that are essentially our equal (or in some ways better) hate us because we give the impression that we look down on them (and in most cases, we probably do!)
I'll admit, growing up in the US and never leaving its borders my entire life, I honestly don't know what life is like elsewhere. Growing up in the 80s, where the USSR was still a force to be reckoned with, and film from any country but the US was grainy and poorly produced, I always had a feeling that living anywhere else was going to be a huge step down. Like, people elsewhere don't have freedom, and get asked for "papers" wherever they go. They live in tiny flats, drive shitty cars, and everything is in short supply. Whereas in the US, we have multiple big cars, big plots of land, 8 bedroom houses, a swimming pool in every back yard, and everybody can make their fortune.
Not true of either her nor there... but that was the impression I was given of the rest of the world as a child (save for Canada... then and now, I don't see much difference between the lifestyle of a Canadian and a US citizen.)

Nope I have no heritage....I went on a trip there and fell in love.


When your standing at the wailing wall and you walk down and actually touch it and have this connection with the last standing wall of the original temple its just unreal.

Don't forget that Jews don't think of judiasm as just a religion. We feel it is our race. It is who we are.

So its not so much just my religion that binds me as it is my people that live there as well as the family I have there.

[GeoffM]

Just wanted to bump this to say my responses are coming. I've had a really high fever these past few days.

[deevergote]

Remember, Geoff... I DID suggest deleting this thread... Though as long as the conversation stays civil, I see no need to. Just please, everyone, keep it civil. Geoff, if it gets out of hand and you delete it before I or any of the mods start banning people, nobody will get banned.

[deevergote]

Nope I have no heritage....I went on a trip there and fell in love.


When your standing at the wailing wall and you walk down and actually touch it and have this connection with the last standing wall of the original temple its just unreal.

Don't forget that Jews don't think of judiasm as just a religion. We feel it is our race. It is who we are.

So its not so much just my religion that binds me as it is my people that live there as well as the family I have there.

That's true. I have Jewish family (I'll be celebrating Passover on Saturday, and Easter on Sunday! ) They're about as Jewish as I am Catholic, and their geographical origins are actually partially the same as mine (Lithuania). It's still an interesting concept. Jews come from MANY different areas (well, mainly all over Europe and parts of Asia) and are extremely diverse. I wonder if you go back far enough in most of the families in different countries, from Israel to Russia and all between, if you'll find that they eventually end up back at the same origins...

Jewish people are the only ones that have a race and a religion that is basically one in the same, regardless of where their ancestral origins come from geographically.

[GeoffM]

Remember, Geoff... I DID suggest deleting this thread... Though as long as the conversation stays civil, I see no need to. Just please, everyone, keep it civil. Geoff, if it gets out of hand and you delete it before I or any of the mods start banning people, nobody will get banned.

I actually checked a few hours after you responded and saw your approval. Otherwise I would've deleted it.

Temp of 103.7 when I woke up this morning. I felt like I was drunk!

[GeoffM]

Yeah... but we whupped their asses. Twice.

In WW1 they ran out of people, and once we started pushing in millions of grunts they couldn't do anything, so they asked for an armistice. To me, that's saying yes we lost, but it was an oversight on our part. Many of the soldiers that were in WW1 were very unhappy with this, and blamed it on the new officials in the German government. Many of those officials were Jews, which Hitler pin pointed and seemed to be a focal point of his rage.

In WW2, again they ran out of people. This time it was due to our large infusion of grunts, and Germany severely underestimated the size of Russia.

Lets do this in sections so we can get everything.

Well didn't take long for him to come around again eh?

I LOVE how the OP totes on German car's being superior, yet has NEVER owned or worked on a German car in his life.

I have worked on several. They were mostly E30s, but those are certainly German.

He just has an infatuation with the nationality and just has no fucking life.

I actually have quite a life. That and a very high fever are why it took me so long to respond.

Makes me miss the days of Maple and Dave(RNR).

At least they were entertaining and genuinely good people....

this fucking guy is a fucking waste of life.

Go on, tell us about how wonderful the Holocaust was.

You must admit, Hitler had a vision and got it done. Before the Holocaust even started he had the admiration of several European leaders for having a plan and making it work. He brought Germany out of a depression and vastly improved the country.

Fun fact: Remember the war debts they were supposed to be paying back because of WW1? Hold that thought, now ask yourself where all that money was coming from and why they still had leftover money to do all the building I mentioned?
American investors. At one point, the investors were pouring in more money than Germany was paying out in war reparations. That's pretty impressive if you ask me.

I already know your opinions so you might as well just share....

oh wait he is afraid of being banned?

Awwww.

No ban can stop me. Tippey told you that long ago.

Now, just in case this starts spiraling before I can delete it, look at this post and the others I'll make after. All of them are oriented towards facts, not personal attacks.

[GeoffM]

I would hope, however, that any sane individual would also be able to comprehend the dozen reasons why no country or peoples is far superior to any one entity.

Ok, let me try a clearer comparison:
America vs Somalia

Which would you prefer?

As far as the rest of his list-

Beer
women
cars
precision


its the same old reasoning he gave last time.....the other 1xx countries on the planet contain, in some form or another, that same list.

So how does that make Germany far superior?

The reasons Germany is better haven't changed, so neither has the list.
Well, I added to it, because I know more now.
And I forgot the autobahn. Seriously amazing.

Italy and Sweden are just two examples of countries that are on par, if not better then Germany in their own right.

Mussolini was Hitlers idol. Mussolini didn't feel that way, but Hitler really liked him. So much so that he even sent the German equivalent of SEALS or awesome marines(IDK the name) to go rescue him.

Germany is relatively on-par with the US, Canada, and many other countries that are relatively financially secure (debt aside, Americans still have money to spend on luxuries), educated, peaceful, and, well... civilized.

Well yeah. Those are all third world countries. The point I'm trying to make is that Germany is better, IMO by leaps and bounds.

German engineering is known for its precision, yes. However, the overall quality of it can be a matter of opinion. I don't know many people on here that will claim that they admire VW's reliability over the last 15-20 years... I don't know many people that would risk buying an older Mercedes Benz for fear of major electrical problems. BMWs are fantastic cars, for the most part (there are some models that aren't, but overall...) but that's the company, not the country of Germany itself.

Ok, how about this:
Would you admire any of the big 3's reliability over the past 20 years? Or even today?

Any BMW is a company yes, but it's staffed by (mostly) Germans. Who live in Germany.
I haven't heard much about VW or Mercedes issues.

Women? That's a matter of opinion. I don't know if any country can be credited for having more attractive people than others. The biggest factor is probably diet and hygiene, over anything else. A person in a country like Germany, or Sweden, or France, or Spain, or the US, or Canada... will most likely be more attractive because they are well nourished, and they still have all their teeth! That is, unless they are obese (and MY impression of German women, based only on stereotypes that I do not hold as fact, is that they are on the hefty side...)

My info on that came when I was in my German classes. The teacher would stream tv shows from Germany. We would often get the news. When they would go into the streets to interview people I would watch the passerby's. While it wasn't all amazing, it was nicer to look at then what we have here.

Beer? Again, opinion. Some of the origins of common brewing techniques did originate in Germany, and that general area... but that does not necessarily mean that German beer is superior. I'm a big fan of beer, and I'll honestly say that German beer is not among my favorites. I think American beer is the best (and I don't mean Bud, Miller, Coors, etc... those are shite.)

I guess it comes down to opinion. But, those beers you listed.... I usually consider those to be "get drunk beers". Drink them as fast as you can(I drink VERY fast) to get drunk. If it was an occasion where you didn't want to get drunk quickly, I'd drink a better beer, and slower.

Geoff, all of your arguments for Germany could be made for Japan as well, depending solely on the opinion of the person making the argument. Cars, women, ok maybe not beer (but the Japanese DO make the best sake! and that is actually more closely related to beer than wine.)


The American military is still the most powerful, unless China decides to arm their bazillions of citizens. The US is a very large country that has spent a good deal of money developing their army over the past 100 years at least. The US military has been active in one way or another CONSTANTLY, even when not at war. With all the worldwide bases and "territories" we have, we might as well be Imperial England! No single country could come close to defeating the US military. Any that have the technology don't have the numbers.
Ralph, I do agree that the Israeli military has an INSANE level of training, though. I don't know if the US would have too much difficulty crushing them if it really came down to it, but I feel they'd put up a fight that is easily on par with a military force twice their size from many other countries.

Our military is actually a very small percentage of our population. Idk that exact number, but it's something like .02%
How do we have the biggest military with such low percentages?
We breed like rats. The smart few control and manipulate the masses, and we have many masses. This will tie into my response to Ralphs comment about the lazy americans and jayzs babies.

If this discussion remains civil, it may continue. Just please don't attack one another. Praising the Germans, even admiring what they accomplished in WWII (not the atrocities, of course, but the military feats, technological developments, etc...) is NOT an attack against anyone, and should not be taken that way.

I'd be open to letting a hot Finnish female soldier beat me up if she looked like this





or like this

I like the second and third ones.

I know I chimed in a little late, but I just saw and read the first page. Immediately thought of this.

That guy is a boss. His tv show is pretty good.

Well Ralphie it's always harder on someone else's turf, their resources are closer and they know the lay of the land. Two reasons we have never had a war on our turf, one is what I stated above and the other is we have the right to bear arms. No one wants to invade a place where civilians are also a big threat.

Deev, I'd be careful I hear some of those women that are hot are not so hot once they put their arms over their heads. Better bring a Gillette. I also can't believe you left Brazil out of the women category.

I will say Germany is a country I will be visiting within the next 10 years. It's on the list.

War is much more difficult on someone elses turf. I don't want to keep going back to WW2, but that was a main concern of the Germans in Russia. The terrain was very difficult to move in, and it's many times larger than they were used to.

Maybe I missed the point.. But the one main factor in how Israel has a powerful military is the US.. Israel is the number one recipient of US aid by far (mostly military)

That's always what I was taught

forklifts etc.

Really? Forklifts?

also our military is a volunteer one.

It works good for our country and has obv done good since the end of the draft.

That's because the draft ended after the major wars. There will never be wars like that again. Never on that scale.

Now when you go to a country like Israel and submerse yourself in the population and meet people between the ages of 18-25 who have either served or are serving(since its mandatory) you quickly realize that the majority of people are totally aware of their surroundings and are much better equipped to handle most situations without much help, unlike here where we have people in lala land who are to caught up with jayz babys name etc.

This was a huge concern that led me to create all these threads and ideas. americans are lazy and stupid. That's not the point of this thread, and there are certainly exceptions (This guy ) but for the most part, that's how it is.

Just a different way of living....i am not saying it is better....but because of their reality, it has made them a stronger country and they decided as a country that they will never give up that land again and will fight till every soul is killed for it.

So i don't really see where us aid helps...besides armament which is what most of it goes to.


Let me tell a quick story.

I read the other day about how Israel warned the US about a Nuclear facility somewhere in the middle east(not sure where)

Israel was concerned that they were using it as a front to make weapons that would be used against them(much like Iran is now)

The US passed on the chance to investigate and basically blew them off.

Well fast foward a few years and the decide maybe they should investigate.....problem is is that the Israeli air force already blew it sky high.

The US didn't even know...how sad is that.

Israel said "ok....you don't want to back us....fuck it will do it ourselves"

And basically did.

Much like most of what they do.


Anyway this is all WAY OT from the OP.

That's a pretty cool story. And I'm not being sarcastic.