I got pulled over for no front bumper. wtf?

[Pali_Mo]

My legend lip recently tore and ive been meaning to repair it. I took off the whole front bumper till then. I didnt want it dragging, and i didnt just remove the lip so I wouldnt fuck up the way its lined up.

What really pisses me off is that he didnt explain the issue of no front bumper. I have both my corner lights which work as turn signals, so there shouldnt be issues with no bumper lights.

I feel I may have been profiled. Kid in honda, driving around downtown late at night. IDGAF if it was profiling, he can suck a cock.



So to make this thread worthwile, post up the craziest reason that you have been pulled over for!

[Leung]

I think that sounds right about not having a front bumper on. Its the rear that i dont think the police care about. My neighborhood is kind of weird like that, no rear bumper or they replaced it with wood boards. It's just a safety thing.

[Tnwagn]

By taking off your bumper you removed your bumper support as well. This means the front of your car is a solid block of metallic doom that would destroy anything it hit. It also means any front-end collision you have will transfer a much larger amount of the force directly to the chassis of the vehicle.

He did the right thing, you shouldn't drive without a bumper on.

Honestly, I don't see you think it's easier to take the entire bumper off compared to removing a lip because of the way it is aligned. The holes where you attached the lip the first time aren't going to magically disappear when you remove the lip from the bumper cover.

[408cb7]

I think that you need a bumper support for safety purposes, a bumper cover its not required i think

[LadyG]

If you're driving a CB, than that ticket is bullshit. A bumper is defined as (in Fl law) a 3" barrier from the frame. What you have off right now is a bumper cover. I got pulled over for this in Daytona Beach, and I told the cop, "I know the law about this", and showed him the bar of metal protruding from your frame...3".

If you can find the statue (should be on the ticket) and if it is like our law; take it to court, with pics, and you're free.

[Pali_Mo]

I think that sounds right about not having a front bumper on. Its the rear that i dont think the police care about. My neighborhood is kind of weird like that, no rear bumper or they replaced it with wood boards. It's just a safety thing.

By taking off your bumper you removed your bumper support as well. This means the front of your car is a solid block of metallic doom that would destroy anything it hit. It also means any front-end collision you have will transfer a much larger amount of the force directly to the chassis of the vehicle.

He did the right thing, you shouldn't drive without a bumper on.

Honestly, I don't see you think it's easier to take the entire bumper off compared to removing a lip because of the way it is aligned. The holes where you attached the lip the first time aren't going to magically disappear when you remove the lip from the bumper cover.

I think that you need a bumper support for safety purposes, a bumper cover its not required i think

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I never thought of it like that(in terms of reasons he pulled me over.) The thought of hitting someone did cross my mind numerous times, as i will have nothing to take the blow and my radiator would surely be fucked up.


About the lip, it was kinda painstaking to get it on the first time, and we had to drill new holes for it. I just dont wanna take the chance of removing it and not being able to put the screws in the holes again.

Its bothered me so much that i just set it in the garage and i havent even had the courage to go out there and properly "assess" the damage. I just cant look at it.

If you're driving a CB, than that ticket is bullshit. A bumper is defined as (in Fl law) a 3" barrier from the frame. What you have off right now is a bumper cover. I got pulled over for this in Daytona Beach, and I told the cop, "I know the law about this", and showed him the bar of metal protruding from your frame...3".

If you can find the statue (should be on the ticket) and if it is like our law; take it to court, with pics, and you're free.

Thanks for the info, LadyG, but there actually was no ticket. I should have specified that.
And I did remove the bumper support, since its necessary in removing the bumper properly.

But thats awesome how you owned a cop on his own laws lol.

[Pali_Mo]

Hoping not to get flamed to hell for this, but will this be an acceptable replacement to a bumper support? Talking if I were to be boosted.

If, as you guys say, the bumper support and not cover itself is the only thing req'd, then this bar should serve the same purpose, right?

[blazedealh91]

i was pulled over in my drive way for going side ways from a 4 way stop i was turning left up a hill
have to fight it tomorow in court

[cp[mike]]

Hoping not to get flamed to hell for this, but will this be an acceptable replacement to a bumper support? Talking if I were to be boosted.

If, as you guys say, the bumper support and not cover itself is the only thing req'd, then this bar should serve the same purpose, right?

you need to look up the specific laws for your state, but I believe it includes things such as that it must absorb impacts at 15mph, be at a certain height.. not sure about how wide it must be, because the stock one wraps around the corners... but theoretically that may be fine, yea

but yeah i agree driving with no support is no good. no cover, whatever.

[Pali_Mo]

you need to look up the specific laws for your state, but I believe it includes things such as that it must absorb impacts at 15mph, be at a certain height.. not sure about how wide it must be, because the stock one wraps around the corners... but theoretically that may be fine, yea

but yeah i agree driving with no support is no good. no cover, whatever.

ok thanks. i am hoping (just a thought atm) to boost in the next 6 months, so i asked about the 240 because im interested in doing the same thing. I love the look of no bumper with a huge intercooler, but i still want it o be protected just incase.

[h22sparkle]

As bad as it sounds all and all you gotta look at it from the cops point of view he was just doing his job whatever that is at that time. Now you know if your car looks fast it will be easier for him to just give you a ticket and keep it moving to please his boss.

Thats how it is gotta take it with a grain of salt. If you had your bumper int he car driving it and explaining to him that it just fell off then maybe if hes merciful hed give you a pass but if you didnt well you know the deal.

Id fight it take it to court but bring reciepts and just say your shit was in the trunk and that it fell off after hitting some roadkill and show pics of some blood on the bumper and im sure youd get off the hook beises you have nothing but roadkill out in the sticks anyway.

[MadSpleen85]

Around here there is a certain height off of the ground that your bumper must be and another height for the maximum from the pavement. I can't even remember the range... I have been stopped and had the cop break out the tape measure and check that I was within the legal range, I was. Cop thanked me for my patience and sent me on my way.

I have only had two tickets in the 10 years that I have been driving on my own. First was illegal lights (cop said my headlights were purple..... They were silverstars, Traffic court threw it out.) Second was speeding, cop said he clocked me doing 96 in a 65, radar gun did not lock on me until I was already on the brakes and down to 84 in a 65. $165. He said if I would have been doing 1 MPH more when it locked on he could have added reckless driving.

The best and most recent is my personal favorite. Pulling out of the bank parking lot last weekend, no stop sign, did a little California roll out of that bank lot and onto the road. Didn't stop completely but did slow and check that it was clear to pull out. Kansas law says that is illegal. Cop stopped me and informed me that he could ticket me for that. Written warning, citing the state statute number, looked it up. http://kslegislature.org/li/statute/...08_015_0055_k/

I get stopped quite a bit, usually for no good reason. Honda with a fart can does that around here. And once they stop me, most are not impressed with the scanner(s) in the center console.

[TracieS]

I ride with no bumper all the time and you can catch me with out a hood to sometimes. Its easier to take off my bumper to properly jack up my car in the air. Nothing has been said to me but I do leave the bumper bar though on my lol. But my buddy's s13 has no bumper. Its has a fiberglass kit and his car is slammed and we destroyed it one day road construction but he kept his bumper bar on to so...

[Tnwagn]

First, lips get destroyed. It was a legend lip too, not anything that's priceless by any measure. I've busted up 3 or 4 CD5 lips. Kill it, remove it, replace it. It's an expendable item.

Just a comment about the look of the 240. If a cop sees you driving around like that, you are going to get profiled. It doesn't matter about the functionality of the bar, you will get pulled over because you look like you're driving a car, that in their minds, that looks like a race car. You most likely won't get a ticket, but it will be a huge hassle.

[deevergote]

cp[mike] is right on the nose with the local bumper requirements. Look it up. If the cop pulled you over, I'm sure there ARE requirements in your area. They make a big deal about height and absorbing impact. Basically, the support needs to be at a proper height to take the majority of the impact when the car is hit... otherwise, it's going to crumple and send your engine back through the firewall, into your lap! The front end of the car is designed to transfer that impact into crumple zones (if so equipped... dunno if that's after the CB7's time), or at least transfer the energy into parts of the frame that can withstand it.

Also, pedestrian safety is a concern. Say you're stopped at a crosswalk, and a little old lady is crossing in front of you. The dumbass coming up behind you is too busy browsing his ipod's Miley Cyrus collection to realize that you're being a good boyscout and letting the old bat waddle across the road. He sees you too late to stop in time, and bumps you. Just a bump. No biggie. Enough to make you roll forward 3 feet. Into Mrs Doubtfire there... Now, a proper bumper would leave a bruise. Your red-hot radiator and jagged metal pieces on the front of a bumperless car will tear her swollen little cankles to shreds!


I don't see what's appealing about the look of a bumperless car, honestly. To me, it looks like the demolition derby just hasn't begun yet! Also, it puts all aerodynamics straight into the pooper.