Honda needs a production v8

[rustyaccord]

I know they already build them for F1 cars but if Honda were to develop a production V8, what specs would you all like to see? Stroke, CR, displacement, HP, Tq? Which car would you like to see it in?

[sonikaccord]

3.0 liter
320 hp
9k
Mid engine Cr-z...or Beat

[cb7 calling]

1.Flat plane crank, 3.2 basically two b16a one crank.
2. Same thing f20c

[4GAccordH22]

They don't build them for F1. F1 uses 1.6 liter turbocharged hybrid V6s. And the one that Honda is currently making for F1 is lacking in both power and reliability. I seriously hope that they can step up their game next season (this F1 season is about done) and make a more competitive engine! I, for one, would LOVE to see McLaren Honda winning races! They have the drivers that can win, now give those drivers a good car!

Sorry, but someone mentioned F1...

[owequitit]

They don't build them for F1. F1 uses 1.6 liter turbocharged hybrid V6s. And the one that Honda is currently making for F1 is lacking in both power and reliability. I seriously hope that they can step up their game next season (this F1 season is about done) and make a more competitive engine! I, for one, would LOVE to see McLaren Honda winning races! They have the drivers that can win, now give those drivers a good car!

Sorry, but someone mentioned F1...

They'll get it. Their R&D has been atrophied for like 10 years now. They made a LOT of progress through the season, and it sounds like the PU for 2016 will be even better. Winning? Not sure, but I think they will be on an upward trend.

[djcaz_aom]

The Honda V8 was for the Indy car series. They were first 3.5 l, then 3.0. They had roughly 670-690hp and reved out to 10,000 rpm on the 3.0l. I'd love to have one of these.

[CyborgGT]

I've always thought of Honda engines as Ferrari engines on a smaller scale. So yeah, small-displacement with a volumetric efficiency to the tune of about 120hp per liter naturally aspirated would be sweet. Stick it in a more analog version of the NSX.

Lol, as I was typing "NSX" my device suggested "NSX-R" in the spell-check. I don't believe I've ever used that acronym on this thing.

[rustyaccord]

Indy was what I was thinking about, sorry guys. I would like to see something with a little more torque so it doesn't have to rev so high to make power. Here's mine: DOHC, longer stroke, 4 - 6 liter, dual plane crank for a little rumble... Can you tell I'm a muscle car guy? I mainly would like to see something that will give Toyota a run for their money engine wise.

[deevergote]

I feel that Honda should've gone RWD and V8 with the release of the 2nd generation Legend. I'm fairly certain that the Legend was overlooked in favor of the Lexus LS400 largely due to the lack of V8 and RWD. It wasn't a "proper" luxury car, even though (and people will argue this...) it was potentially the better car all around. The later model Legends were only 20hp shy of the LS400 (though the LS400 had over 50ft-lbs more torque... but a curb weight that was 300lbs higher than the Legend.)

With today's fuel economy crunch, I feel it's a BAD time for Honda to bother with a V8. The time to do that was in the 90s, and they missed the boat. They're venturing into turbo territory now, though. Perhaps we'll see some serious V8-esque power from reasonably efficient boosted V6s. Give me a turbocharged 2.5L V6 that gets 33mpg on the highway, and makes 350hp.

[oni_cb7]

The C7 Corvette with a 450 hp motor is capable of 30+ mpg on the freeway.

[XCRN]

I like the idea of this theoretical engine in the NSX and other sport derived vehicles, but where its needed most is the Passport/Pilot. A FWD NA truck of that size

[deevergote]

Passport hasn't been a thing since 2002! (and it was an Isuzu, technically.) The Passport was also RWD, unlike the Pilot, which is FWD (and FWD-based AWD.) I do agree that Honda's FWD "trucks" are silly. The Pilot is a VERY nice vehicle... but it's little more than a truck-shaped minivan.

Honda is going in the right direction with the NSX. I don't like it... but they're doing what the old NSX did. The original NSX was basically Honda saying "Hey, Ferrari, we build better Ferraris than you! For a fraction of the price!" Now, the NSX is competing with the Porsche 918 and McLaren P1. It may not truly compete with those cars in terms of performance, but it offers about 60% of what the Porsche and McLaren offer for 15%-20% of the price. Though I wonder if the NSX would hit competitive horsepower numbers if they replaced the V6 with a V8...

The Corvette's V8 fuel economy is impressive... though probably rated a LITTLE high. My CTS-V is rated at 16-25mpg, and I don't think I've ever seen 25mpg on the highway. I do average between 14 and 16 around town, though. Still, it's the EPA ratings that matter in terms of a manufacturer's ability to produce cars like that!

[XCRN]

Right, Ridgeline was what I was looking for. But anyways, yes the NSX will probably be priced lower than the McLarens and the Porches and the Ferraris but I do not think by that much. And the person that could afford an NSX could afford the McLarnes, Porches, etc and why would you spend that much on a Honda when you could get something with prestige in that world.

[cp[mike]]

Sorry I know this isn't what you are looking for, but: 8 cylinders was just a way of adding complexity to make up for weak power output. Honda doesn't need 8 and they know it.

[owequitit]

The Honda V8 was for the Indy car series. They were first 3.5 l, then 3.0. They had roughly 670-690hp and reved out to 10,000 rpm on the 3.0l. I'd love to have one of these.

It was actually the other way around. They started at 3.0L when they moved to IRL and went to 3.5L when they started running them on ethanol.

But yes, they sounded good. The MP4/4 that owned the 1988 F1 season sounded awesome too though, but it was a boosted V6.