jdm92_accorn : 1992 Accord LX

[Mishakol129]

For anyone doing the F23/F22a hybrid, I got some tips. When installing the driver side mount bracket, do NOT use the longer bolt from the F23 or you'll end up stripping the threads. That bolt is a little shorter than the F22a bolt.

I stripped the longer bolt on the bracket and had to use a tap and new bolt. Easy fix but man was it discouraging.

This bolt is what i'm talking about. Its shorter on the F23 cause the bracket where that bolt goes is not as thick as the F22a bracket.

[F22A1forlife]

Thats very good to know. Thanks for that info. It helps.

[Lucien]

Noted!

Man, i hope you don't mind questions because once i start my hybrid build i'm gonna be bugging you lol

[Mishakol129]

Noted!

Man, i hope you don't mind questions because once i start my hybrid build i'm gonna be bugging you lol

Its really very simple, however I have an observation about my own hybrid build. When I weighed the harmonic balancer (crank pulley), I saw that the F23 one was a few ounces heavier than the F22a one. I originally tried to get the F23 one to work but as it turns out its wider and wouldn't fit, so I had to use the original F22a one. As it turns out, It appears I'm getting slight vibrations at 25-3500 rpms. At first I thought it was the the absence of balance shafts, then I thought about the weight difference in the pulley. JdmAccorn do you have any idea what the vibration is or am I just drawing conlusions?

[jdm92_accorn]

the f23 does have a little more vibration tha the f22a does due to the shorter rods with longer stroke. the f23 also has a lower rpm operating range for the most part so the oem harmonic balancer will be setup to counter the torsional vibration of that engine. a f22a balancer on f23 is not a great idea but the other way around would be less detrimental. personally i would stick with the one for the crank you are running.

[jdm92_accorn]

well, i just picked up two more f23 blocks. one of them is going to go under this dohc head nobody seems to want and the other im not sure about yet. im thinking:

generic 3" intake
skunk2 70mm TB
skunk2 Pro series IM
Injector dynamics 440cc injectors
ported and milled F22B dohc head
custom delta regrinds
bisimoto valvesprings
stock USDM F23A1 short block (rebuilt)
new ACL bearings
new hastings rings
new honda oil pump
KS tuned BS delete kit
bisimoto header

then sell as RTR for $2200+shipping

K&N filter
BLOX 4" velocity stack
AEM BB6 V2 SRI
ported H23 IM
OEM RDX 410cc injectors
AEM adjustable FPR set at 45psi
balance shaft belt removed
PT6 (F22A) cylinder head milled .045" (bumps compression to 10.3:1)
Web Camshafts custom regrind
Bisimoto Pro valve springs
Bisimoto billet aluminum rocker spacers
Bisimoto cam gear
NGK blue wires
OEM Honda new Cap and Rotor button
JDM F23A short block
M2 H23 header with custom 2" secondary pipes and 2.5" collector

RTR $1800+ shipping


my next setup will probably be the last in the car and it'll be top secret until after the first 1/4 mile vid.

[Mishakol129]

The F23 balancer doesn't fit though...

[Jarrett]

The F23A balancer doesn't fit on the F23A bottom end?

[Mishakol129]

The F23A balancer doesn't fit on the F23A bottom end?

It does but its wider then the F22a balancer and won't go on cause the chassis is in the way. There is like zero clearance.

[CB7Denmark]

58 Pages down!

Gotta take a break from reading. Just wanted to thank you for sharing all your knowledge, this thread is the F22A Bible. Really.


Also wanted to know, what is your setup in this vid? I kinda lost track of it amidst the awesomeness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp6bwXiq3Yw Youtube link not working.

[jdm92_accorn]

i think that was the f22 bottom end with the skunk2 intake manifold and the muffler shut. well pretty much everything is sold again minus a f22b head with f20a dohc cams. from what im told its like putting an a6 cam in an a4. current setup is street tuned so no numbers.
k&n filter
blox velocity stack
aem v2
maxbore 64<70mm tapered h23 TB
oem rdx 410cc injectors with stock accord regulator
F22B dohc IM
F22A6 long block with head milled .020"
web camshafts custom regrind on a1 core
bisimoto cam gear
bisimoto valve springs
bisimoto rocker spacers
new oem retainers and keepers
new oem valve guides and seals
bisimoto v2 4-1 header
2.5" ktellar piping kit
2.5" vibrant ultra quiet resonator
2.5" xforce varex dual tip muffler
hondata s300 v2
m2s4 trans
exedy stage 1 clutch kit
fidanza flywheel

the ass dyno tells me im in the 170-175whp range again. it pulls strong but i left some room for improvement, im just not comfortable with my skills just yet so i had timing at 20* @ WOT. with afr's from 13.0 to 12.8.

ive also got rid of the other car. i want to start over with a clean slate and build it from the ground up again. i've started tinkering here and there to bring back the accord's softer nature. driving a monster everyday sounds fun until you actually have to. then it wears at you to the point you start enjoying riding in stock cars. i fixed my idle issues for when the a/c is on. i vacuumed it all down, flushed the system and installed a new orifice and filled it back up with the new 134a with "ice technology". by the way, that stuff really does make a difference. i replaced some squeeky bushings and white lithium'd everything i could think of. cleaned up some old wiring and tuned outsome driveability issues ive beenhaving. now if i had that electric power steering ive been wanting, for a while now, id be set till i start the ground up.

[P5ylance]

hey, when using the bisi valve springs, because theyre madd stiffer, do i have to use anything special for them? like a different kind of engine oil?

[ol blue]

I know there was a kid on club3g that modified a saturn vue power steering system into his car and he said it worked pretty well. Idk if you would be able to fit that big motor underneath the dash of a cb though.

[PirateMcFred]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...19837093_n.jpg

It's odd recognizing pictures I took 10 year ago. Had to do a double take.

Good to see that the old F-hybrids are alive and well.

-P

[jdm92_accorn]

I picked up another f23 jdm block. It should be here in a couple days. I'm saving up some coins for the tsx piston/billet steel rod combo with another f22a6 head. I'm planning full blown sleeper this time. I will be porting a f22b intake manifold and building a hytech replica header with provisions for a factory exhaust heat shield.