d112crzy : 1993 Accord LX

[Clueless]

Yup, the guy that tunes and has ACTUAL experience is ignorant about which headgaskets work.

Cometic doesn't hold with boost worth a shit. OEM ftw.

Does the guy that "tunes" realize your block and head have to be prepared for a cosmetic? I doubt it....

You're not pushing serious power though.

Everytime I've tuned anything over 300whp they've blown on me. They go to an OEM one and they're good to go.

Not sure what it is. Just going from MY experience. This is with 3 different setups.

Buddy of mine is currently running 20psi Lipp Boss turbo, so you're doing something wrong.

[quickangel93]

You're not pushing serious power though.

Everytime I've tuned anything over 300whp they've blown on me. They go to an OEM one and they're good to go.

Not sure what it is. Just going from MY experience. This is with 3 different setups.

oh i wasnt sure if you were talking about boosted cb in general or 300+ hp. but your right, those gaskets wont take that kind of beating

[d112crzy]

Does the guy that "tunes" realize your block and head have to be prepared for a cosmetic? I doubt it....



Buddy of mine is currently running 20psi Lipp Boss turbo, so you're doing something wrong.

What's to be prepped? resurface? the block hardly ever has to be decked, and I always recommend resurfacing heads. In fact, I won't ever take a head off if it's not going to be resurfaced.

[Clueless]

What's to be prepped? resurface? the block hardly ever has to be decked, and I always recommend resurfacing heads. In fact, I won't ever take a head off if it's not going to be resurfaced.

Cosmetics HG require a certain RA value to proper seal, if you don't do it, it will blow.

[d112crzy]

got some jdm h22 pistons and free acl bearings yesterday from Richie GT35R. Installed lots of jdm lighting goodness last night on his car too. shit looks sexy.

now I'm out of money again(i gave him 30 for the pistons, all I had the rest of the week until friday). This friday when I get my check, I'm dropping off my pistons/rods to get the wrist pins pressed out and f22 rods pressed onto h22 pistons, and head to get worked on .

Car SHOULD be running in 2 weeks or so, again. Sooner if I can get at least 1 side job. We've also figured out how to use f22 arp head studs on h22's.

I'm going to clay everything before I buy a new hg. I really don't want to buy a thicker hg if I don't have to. The numbers I calculated say the pistons will stick out of the block quite a bit, but I'm just not sure if it will be enough to hit the valves. That's for stock cams anyways. I'm sure anything bigger WOULD hit with a stock hg.

Also thinking of trading my rims for some CD SE's

[gloryaccordy]

Those rims are butt

J/K

Man this whole build looks like a pain in the azz. Alvin has an H23 block and an H22 head/OEM pistons wouldn't cost much... but eh

Hope u get some side work next week. Good luck!!!

[d112crzy]

There is no difference between an h22 and an h23 block, both obd1.

It's not a pain in the ass. The only pain here is my wallet. I did not want to do this initially due to me needed to pay other bills. If I had more cash flow, it would have been done the first time around. Now I have no choice really, unless i save up MORE money for a stock jdm h22 from an importer.

so far I've spent $30 on top of what I've already spent prepping the h22. I plan to spend another $200-250 in getting it running. Then I still want to buy a bigger tb, and some dyno time.

[imismyh0nda]

man those rims ARE ass u should keep the blades

[prNonVtec4u]

def keep da blades

[gloryaccordy]

There is no difference between an h22 and an h23 block, both obd1.

It's not a pain in the ass. The only pain here is my wallet. I did not want to do this initially due to me needed to pay other bills. If I had more cash flow, it would have been done the first time around. Now I have no choice really, unless i save up MORE money for a stock jdm h22 from an importer.

so far I've spent $30 on top of what I've already spent prepping the h22. I plan to spend another $200-250 in getting it running. Then I still want to buy a bigger tb, and some dyno time.

Yea I know they're the same. W/ the H22 pistons it would be good. And yea it wouldnt make any sense to buy another motor, seems like you have everything all together waiting to be assembled. What'd you do with your F22???

[bruno8747]

Im going to be the one to say this, I personally thing this project of yours is going to go over budget and potentially be unrelaible.

You are using h22 pistons from another block, Thats not a good idea in general. All the pistons wear differently. A piston from one block wont fit right with the proper clearance in another block.

Its also always best to hone the cylinder walls when installing new pistons, now you are using the H22, FRM sleeves. Its $400 for a hone job on FRM in NYC. Its probably similar in FL.

Rather than using a thicker headgasket, I would clearance the Combustion chambers, Then clay the motor after. But once you get into machine work its going to cost serious money. This project will turn into a built motor of sorts by the time you are dont.

Im just stating what I think, If you can pull it off then thats the best thing. But rather than listening to everyone who does'nt know how much everything cost and whats involved listen to someone who knows the cost and money situation.

You are going to need the car to use for work eventually. There is no point in spending money unnecessarly and still have little problems here and there.

F22's are cheap and reliable. Use that for the time being and build the motor right if you want something good.

I say this to you like I tell everyone DO NOT modify your DD with things that you have second thoughs on. If you want a project GET a project car.

Good luck Jose.

[d112crzy]

Im going to be the one to say this, I personally thing this project of yours is going to go over budget and potentially be unrelaible.

You are using h22 pistons from another block, Thats not a good idea in general. All the pistons wear differently. A piston from one block wont fit right with the proper clearance in another block.

Its also always best to hone the cylinder walls when installing new pistons, now you are using the H22, FRM sleeves. Its $400 for a hone job on FRM in NYC. Its probably similar in FL.

Rather than using a thicker headgasket, I would clearance the Combustion chambers, Then clay the motor after. But once you get into machine work its going to cost serious money. This project will turn into a built motor of sorts by the time you are dont.

Im just stating what I think, If you can pull it off then thats the best thing. But rather than listening to everyone who does'nt know how much everything cost and whats involved listen to someone who knows the cost and money situation.

You are going to need the car to use for work eventually. There is no point in spending money unnecessarly and still have little problems here and there.

F22's are cheap and reliable. Use that for the time being and build the motor right if you want something good.

I say this to you like I tell everyone DO NOT modify your DD with things that you have second thoughs on. If you want a project GET a project car.

Good luck Jose.

The differences in bore difference is very minor. Not enough to really matter.

I've considered clearancing the heads combustion chamber, but machine work here IS expensive. That idea went quickly out the window.

No offense to you or anyone else that it pertains too, but a lot of people on the internet like reading and go off ONLY calculated numbers. Yes, it doesn't make sense, but shit works in real life that doesn't work on paper.

Many people I know have used pistons from a different engine in their engines without problems whatsoever. Yes, the bore sizes are different, but like I stated earlier it really isn't enough to make any sort of significant difference. That becomes more of an issue when dealing with forged pistons due to the expansion rates.

A hone isn't always required. Hardly ever will a stock motor with stock replacement pistons require a rehone, unless the sleeves are completely fucked. In that case, might as well bore out.

The only people I've listened to so far is myself. You out of all people should know that I don't take peoples word on something, especially over the internet.

I understand the way I'm doing this isn't the "proper" way of doing it. But it works and will last.

[J-specCb4]

those wheels are pretty dope... i like the fact they have some depth to them... kinda wanted a set for a while myself.

[d112crzy]

those wheels are pretty dope... i like the fact they have some depth to them... kinda wanted a set for a while myself.

yup. That picture I posted does them no justice. They look so fucking dope on a cb, especially a lowered one.

I'll see if I can get some pics of the car they're on currently. They're fucking CLEAN.

[bruno8747]

The differences in bore difference is very minor. Not enough to really matter.

I've considered clearancing the heads combustion chamber, but machine work here IS expensive. That idea went quickly out the window.

No offense to you or anyone else that it pertains too, but a lot of people on the internet like reading and go off ONLY calculated numbers. Yes, it doesn't make sense, but shit works in real life that doesn't work on paper.

Many people I know have used pistons from a different engine in their engines without problems whatsoever. Yes, the bore sizes are different, but like I stated earlier it really isn't enough to make any sort of significant difference. That becomes more of an issue when dealing with forged pistons due to the expansion rates.

A hone isn't always required. Hardly ever will a stock motor with stock replacement pistons require a rehone, unless the sleeves are completely fucked. In that case, might as well bore out.

The only people I've listened to so far is myself. You out of all people should know that I don't take peoples word on something, especially over the internet.

I understand the way I'm doing this isn't the "proper" way of doing it. But it works and will last.

Yea I know you are doing your own thing, But its really not the proper way I already know that the proper way is not the only way most times. There is alot of hear-say on the net, But from what I have seen the h22 is a different engine when it comes down the clearances. This is a motor that will me revving close to 8k rpms, Clearances make alot of difference.

If you are going to use the other h22 pistons, remove the rings, clean them, and check the ring gaps. Have the pistons cleaned and checked for cracks also. Even new looking pistons have issues.

The thing about this hybrid in particular is its going to have to spend some time at the machine shop, there are alot of things that need to be done that you can't do with regular tools. Thats why I say you might go over budget with the cost of labor.