SUSP: Camber Measure and Rear Washer Trick

[maroonaccord2.2]

Can you do something similiar to the front?

Ya, you can use the jig to measure the front camber, but you obviously cannot adjust the camber without the addition of concentric bushings, or the upper ball joints.

This jig cannot be used for setting the alignment either..... For that, I go to 4 identical jack stands with a perimeter setup around the car as a reference point.

[accordaffair]

Nice, but I would never do the washer trick. Id be afraid.

I felt similiar, until I looked at what ingalls sells for fixing rear camber in the cb...



http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/38940.htm

If its good enough for the pros to sell, its good enough for me...

[accordztech]

I felt similiar, until I looked at what ingalls sells for fixing rear camber in the cb...



http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/38940.htm

If its good enough for the pros to sell, its good enough for me...

i have the whole arm with balljoint from ingalls..oh well.

i hope you guys are using high grade bolts not no bolts to hold up a patio...

[deevergote]

Ingalls sells the entire arm? I'll have to look into that...

Will the washer fix stop the arms from hitting over bumps? I've had that problem since my last drop, which was only about 1.5" in the rear.

[accordztech]

Ingalls sells the entire arm? I'll have to look into that...

Will the washer fix stop the arms from hitting over bumps? I've had that problem since my last drop, which was only about 1.5" in the rear.

where have you been?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-97...spagenameZWDVW

[maroonaccord2.2]

Ingalls sells the entire arm? I'll have to look into that...

Will the washer fix stop the arms from hitting over bumps? I've had that problem since my last drop, which was only about 1.5" in the rear.

The rears hit, how is that possible? My rear drop is the same w/no issues.

Do they hit up top, or on the inner fender?

[accordaffair]

Can anyone good at math tell me the formula to get degrees (of camber). I have a T-square and if I can tell the difference in distance between the top lip of the rim and the bottom lip of the rim, how can I get the degrees of camber?

Lets say, for example, you measure the bottom lip as 2 inches away from the t-square, and the top lip as 3 inches away from the t-square, meaning theres a difference of 1 inch between the top and bottom, 1 inch camber difference. How would you relate this to degrees?

Below I have made the example into an ms paint drawing...

[accordaffair]

I haven't found an answer yet per se, but I found a page that can help. Subtracting the difference between top and bottom in my example is 1 inch, and on 15" wheels, that is 3.82257 degrees.

Here is a list, apparently these measurements are only for 15" wheels...

CAMBER MEASUREMENT BASED ON 15 INCH WHEELS

Camber measurement 1 - 32nds or 0.03125 inches = Camber angle 7.16201 minutes
Camber measurement 2 - 32nds or 0.0625 inches = Camber angle 14.324 minutes
Camber measurement 3 - 32nds or 0.09375 inches = Camber angle 21.4861 minutes
Camber measurement 4 - 32nds or 0.125 inches = Camber angle 28.6483 minutes
Camber measurement 5 - 32nds or 0.15625 inches = Camber angle 35.8106 minutes
Camber measurement 6 - 32nds or 0.1875 inches = Camber angle 42.9731 minutes
Camber measurement 7 - 32nds or 0.21875 inches = Camber angle 50.1358 minutes
Camber measurement 8 - 32nds or 0.25 inches = Camber angle 57.2987 minutes
Camber measurement 9 - 32nds or 0.28125 inches = Camber angle 1.07436 degrees
Camber measurement 10 - 32nds or 0.3125 inches = Camber angle 1.19375 degrees
Camber measurement 11 - 32nds or 0.34375 inches = Camber angle 1.31315 degrees
Camber measurement 12 - 32nds or 0.375 inches = Camber angle 1.43255 degrees
Camber measurement 13 - 32nds or 0.40625 inches = Camber angle 1.55196 degrees
Camber measurement 14 - 32nds or 0.4375 inches = Camber angle 1.67137 degrees
Camber measurement 15 - 32nds or 0.46875 inches = Camber angle 1.79079 degrees
Camber measurement 16 - 32nds or 0.5 inches = Camber angle 1.91022 degrees
Camber measurement 17 - 32nds or 0.53125 inches = Camber angle 2.02966 degrees
Camber measurement 18 - 32nds or 0.5625 inches = Camber angle 2.1491 degrees
Camber measurement 19 - 32nds or 0.59375 inches = Camber angle 2.26856 degrees
Camber measurement 20 - 32nds or 0.625 inches = Camber angle 2.38802 degrees
Camber measurement 21 - 32nds or 0.65625 inches = Camber angle 2.5075 degrees
Camber measurement 22 - 32nds or 0.6875 inches = Camber angle 2.62699 degrees
Camber measurement 23 - 32nds or 0.71875 inches = Camber angle 2.74649 degrees
Camber measurement 24 - 32nds or 0.75 inches = Camber angle 2.866 degrees
Camber measurement 25 - 32nds or 0.78125 inches = Camber angle 2.98552 degrees
Camber measurement 26 - 32nds or 0.8125 inches = Camber angle 3.10505 degrees
Camber measurement 27 - 32nds or 0.84375 inches = Camber angle 3.2246 degrees
Camber measurement 28 - 32nds or 0.875 inches = Camber angle 3.34417 degrees
Camber measurement 29 - 32nds or 0.90625 inches = Camber angle 3.46374 degrees
Camber measurement 30 - 32nds or 0.9375 inches = Camber angle 3.58334 degrees
Camber measurement 31 - 32nds or 0.96875 inches = Camber angle 3.70294 degrees
Camber measurement 32 - 32nds or 1 inches = Camber angle 3.82257 degrees

note: 60 minutes in one degree

[ExplodingCake]

very nice information indeed..

[maroonaccord2.2]

Oh good stuff.....

[John Conner18]

o ic, good idea, nice write up man

[accordaffair]

Well that chart pretty much solves it for me, though it only refers to 15" tires

Take the measurement from the bottom (A) of the wheel, minus the measurement from the top (B) of the wheel. The difference, in inches, we'll call (C), is then multiplied by 3.82257 to give you the result in degrees of camber, or (D).

(A-B)*3.82257=D

Example, my front pass wheel measured 1 1/4" away from the t-square at the top, and 3/4" at the bottom.

A=.75
B=1.25
.75-1.25= -.5, or -1/2 inch. So C= -.50

-.50*3.82257=-1.911285 degrees of camber, or 1.911 degrees of negative camber.

The answer doesn't sync perfectly to the chart but close enough I suppose. He gets 1.91022 for .5 inches camber.

Yawn, math makes sleep now, alignment tomorrow...

[papychulo82]

this is great, THIS is why people love this site, people are always thinking of ways to DIY instead of paying out the ass to have someone do almost the exact same thing

[TysCb7]

Finally got around to doing this DIY, I used a total of 3 washers. I'm going to have an alignment done soon to get some accurate specs.

[accordztech]

if any one needs a rear and or front camber kit let me know.