SUSP: ROH Conversion with 282mm rotors

[drzcb7]

okay well since noone answered my question i went ahead and figured it out myself hopefully it will work but i found a CRV i think it was a 2000; but anyways i took them off and the bracket had 23T on it and the caliper had 15V so if im not mistaken this should work correct? i can use tht assembly as is?

[drzcb7]

also what other cars share this 23t bracket? b/c i search on car-part.com & other cars came up wit the same caliper i would imagine the backet should b the same for some other cars.

[drzcb7]

quick questions;; so 92-01 brackets are all the same? and am i using SH or Base parts for those 97 parts? i would think base right?

[EJX_Michael]

are you talking about the bolts that you see right when you take the wheel off? next to the studs? i stripped the head too, using my impact. how will the screwdriver help?

Yeah, when I changed my rotors the same thing happened. You need to get a bolt removal kit. The things dig into whats left of the head and make it so you can get the bolt out. A pretty indispensable tool to have when most of the bolts on our cars are rusty.

[theSOB]

[QUOTE=mj213;2294983]

can you use the stock accord calipers with the prelude rotors?QUOTE]

Not if you're using the 11.1" brake setup. The prelude rotors are 1" larger in diameter. For a cheap upgrade you can get wagon calipers, rotors and pads. That's what I did. Brings you up to 11.1" brakes in front.

The retainer screws for the rotors are usually removed/installed with an impact wrench. If you don't have one, take a philips head (preferrably a socket attachment) and smack it with a hammer then they'll remove easier. I stripped the head off one before I found this out. Good news, the bolts are dirt cheap from Honda.

are you talking about the bolts that you see right when you take the wheel off? next to the studs? i stripped the head too, using my impact. how will the screwdriver help?

[EJX_Michael]

someone did use prelude parts to do this and it was cheaper. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...&highlight=ROH

my concerns in doing this ROH swap is with my ABS. i have a 93 EX with ABS. will i have any issues in it not functioning properly if i do this swap?

Nah. The tone ring is on the axle and the pickup is mounted to the knuckle. Changing the hub, rotor and caliper won't change anything in the ABS system.

[xkjnboix]

someone did use prelude parts to do this and it was cheaper. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...&highlight=ROH

my concerns in doing this ROH swap is with my ABS. i have a 93 EX with ABS. will i have any issues in it not functioning properly if i do this swap?

[birdman86]

well i have an extra set of prelude brakes, could i use a wagon caliper with them or do i have to get the prelude ones?

[mj213]

[QUOTE=birdman86;2294959]can you use the stock accord calipers with the prelude rotors?QUOTE]

Not if you're using the 11.1" brake setup. The prelude rotors are 1" larger in diameter. For a cheap upgrade you can get wagon calipers, rotors and pads. That's what I did. Brings you up to 11.1" brakes in front.

The retainer screws for the rotors are usually removed/installed with an impact wrench. If you don't have one, take a philips head (preferrably a socket attachment) and smack it with a hammer then they'll remove easier. I stripped the head off one before I found this out. Good news, the bolts are dirt cheap from Honda.

[birdman86]

can you use the stock accord calipers with the prelude rotors? also does anyone know where to get the acura hubs for cheap?

[Cam]

Cam, all you need to do is re-use your stock 23T brackets with those calipers and they will work just fine Sorry for this super late reply hahaha...

Now you tell me. lol. Didn't even think of looking at the stock brackets.

Thanks. that helps a lot. laid it out well. friggin CL hubs are damn expensive.

Try having to import them from USA to Australia on top of that.

[Flatline]

Cam, all you need to do is re-use your stock 23T brackets with those calipers and they will work just fine Sorry for this super late reply hahaha...


Sorry man, but they will not work...BB4 and BB6 are ROH, but they use different style bearings..Here are some pictures..

Stock CB7 knuckle


BB4 knuckles


BB6 knuckle


Notice how with the CB7 knuckle, you bolt down the wheel bearings using those four bolts, while BB4/BB6 knuckle, you press in the wheel bearing into the knuckles (which pretty much acts like a housing to those bearings), and then keep them there with a big ass C-clamp

CB7 hubs and wheel bearings


BB4/BB6 hubs and wheel bearings


BB4/BB6 parts are interchangeable though..Anyways, hope that helps!

Ronald

Thanks. that helps a lot. laid it out well. friggin CL hubs are damn expensive.

[JTEK24]

Nice write up Cam, I will definitely do this one day

[Ronald_Type-R]

Not too sure about this. Might be different in the usa. But I bought calipers/caliper brackets from both a cb wagon and a bb6 prelude before doing this. I think the calipers have different codes but they look exactly the same. However, the main difference was the brackets. The wagon had 25T brackets and may not work.

Cam, all you need to do is re-use your stock 23T brackets with those calipers and they will work just fine Sorry for this super late reply hahaha...

gonna bump this with a question.

would BB4/6 Prelude hubs work too? i haven't had an opportunity to look at them and im not sure if they're ROH. If they are i would assume the hubs would bolt in. Prelude parts are easier to come by for me than Acura CL. im also doing this on a miniscule budget so im looking into JY parts for the hubs. if i can save myself $150 that way ill have it left over for SS lines or something.

Sorry man, but they will not work...BB4 and BB6 are ROH, but they use different style bearings..Here are some pictures..

Stock CB7 knuckle


BB4 knuckles


BB6 knuckle


Notice how with the CB7 knuckle, you bolt down the wheel bearings using those four bolts, while BB4/BB6 knuckle, you press in the wheel bearing into the knuckles (which pretty much acts like a housing to those bearings), and then keep them there with a big ass C-clamp

CB7 hubs and wheel bearings


BB4/BB6 hubs and wheel bearings


BB4/BB6 parts are interchangeable though..Anyways, hope that helps!

Ronald

[Flatline]

gonna bump this with a question.

would BB4/6 Prelude hubs work too? i haven't had an opportunity to look at them and im not sure if they're ROH. If they are i would assume the hubs would bolt in. Prelude parts are easier to come by for me than Acura CL. im also doing this on a miniscule budget so im looking into JY parts for the hubs. if i can save myself $150 that way ill have it left over for SS lines or something.