Bumping this up so the newer members get the info.
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Originally posted by 19dabeast85 View PostBumping this up so the newer members get the info.
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i did test this today, since my IAB were open all the time i decided to hook it up to the plenum. i did feel a difference, but i noticed if the throttle was half the butterflies would open and i would lose some torque. now i must try the solenoid method to see what the true capabilities are of the JDM F22A. Bwahaha
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i appreicate this experiment, thank you so much!!!
i understand now.**Blk Housed Slut Crew Member #1**
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Hmmm I see it now quick question may sound dumb but here it goes
Ok so back like a year my a6 crank snapped so I needed a motor asap so they put in an a1 and I didn't come wit iab right? If so wouldnt the connection still be there ? Where would I find it?
Fyi(I'm going H22!!!! as of yesterday swap continues)
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Originally posted by EJX_Michael View PostWeirdly enough, on my car the IABs dont open till around 4700-5000 RPMs. It just felt like power was being robbed so I hooked them straight vacuum.
Originally posted by sombra13 View PostHmmm I see it now quick question may sound dumb but here it goes
Ok so back like a year my a6 crank snapped so I needed a motor asap so they put in an a1 and I didn't come wit iab right? If so wouldnt the connection still be there ? Where would I find it?
Fyi(I'm going H22!!!! as of yesterday swap continues)My Member's Ride Thread
Bisimoto header before & after dyno
1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.
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Originally posted by Extacee View Posti did test this today, since my IAB were open all the time i decided to hook it up to the plenum. i did feel a difference, but i noticed if the throttle was half the butterflies would open and i would lose some torque. now i must try the solenoid method to see what the true capabilities are of the JDM F22A. Bwahaha
Note we're only talking a couple hp difference with IAB's operational or not and anyone with turbo or high-hp N/A will benefit from removing the IAB's altogether. But with a stock block, having the IAB's work as intended promotes the best engine operation.My Member's Ride Thread
Bisimoto header before & after dyno
1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.
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^^^ thanks again for goin more indepth. i really should look into my iab blk box.
for some reason, when i did the h23 plenum swap, with all the vac lines hooked up rite, my secondaries wouldnt close when the car is on, idk i didnt even touch the iab bx for it 2 mess up.
can you explain to me why having them open all the time is also a good thing.
wont you loose low end?? but i for dam sure you will b makin it up in the top end.**Blk Housed Slut Crew Member #1**
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Da Drizzle's Sedan - Dr. Diy's Blk Housed Thread
'90 2Tone Coupe-Car Heaven_'89 Lude-Junk Yard
Mostly Usdm, some Jdm,Edm,&Puerto Rican RICE
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Originally posted by 19dabeast85 View PostNot weird at all, the IAB's open at 4900rpms. The engine could benefit some if they opened a bit earlier (4500) but I'm guessing the 4900 switch is there to retain fuel economy. A chipped ecu will let you adjust where you want the IAB's to open. The problem with hooking straight to vacuum is the IAB's will open at any mid-throttle point past ~2k rpms which makes you loose some low-end efficiency.Last edited by EJX_Michael; 04-02-2010, 11:34 PM.
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Here is a fun little dyno chart demonstrating the IABs opening. You can see the torque curve flatten out and carry just a little longer once they open, as well as horsepower continuing to climb.
Originally posted by sweet91accordif aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.
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thanks for the chart.
but im ashamed to say this, i forgot how to read a hp chart. to me i just see lines.**Blk Housed Slut Crew Member #1**
**Don't b scared be prepared for the worst**
Da Drizzle's Sedan - Dr. Diy's Blk Housed Thread
'90 2Tone Coupe-Car Heaven_'89 Lude-Junk Yard
Mostly Usdm, some Jdm,Edm,&Puerto Rican RICE
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Originally posted by F20A CB7 View Post^^^ thanks again for goin more indepth. i really should look into my iab blk box.
for some reason, when i did the h23 plenum swap, with all the vac lines hooked up rite, my secondaries wouldnt close when the car is on, idk i didnt even touch the iab bx for it 2 mess up.
can you explain to me why having them open all the time is also a good thing.
wont you loose low end?? but i for dam sure you will b makin it up in the top end.
Having the IAB's open all the time on a stock block&head engine WILL NEVER be a good thing. If they're open all the time, intake air charge velocity at lower rpms will be too low to properly mix the fuel into the air and the burn won't be as efficient as it could be. Having them open all the time will not give you more power above 5k because they're normally already opened above 5k. I think the a6 cam head would benefit from them opening at 4500 instead of 4900 and you can see this in the dyno chart posted on page2.
Those running performance cams with ported head and high-comp pistons will want to completely remove the IAB's or gut the plate and put it back because the plate will restrict upper rpm flow capacity which is where most performance cams make their power anyway.My Member's Ride Thread
Bisimoto header before & after dyno
1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.
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Originally posted by gloryaccordy View PostOn the highway in 5th I get better engine response at part throttle than full.... still scouring the earth for an IAB boxMy Member's Ride Thread
Bisimoto header before & after dyno
1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.
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