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    Violent Vibration Upon Application of Brakes

    Hey guys. I have been driving my CB for a while now.
    I absolutley love it. but I have this Violent vibration in the car (Transmitted through the steering wheel.) At EXACTLY 58-71 MPH. The Steering wheel shakes back and forth transversly. (Widthwise across the Freeway.)
    It is a minimal movement while simply driving in a straight line.
    But when I apply brakes I get a SEVERE lateral shake. If I close my eyes, my instincts tell me that is coming from the passenger side wheel. Once under 58MPH
    the severity goes back to hardly noticeable. so My question is, What could cause this. Let us consider for a moment that when I purchased the car the driver's side CV Axle needed replacement. (I replaced it.) My Mechanic then informed me that the Upper Ball joint on the Driver's Side was, and I quote,
    "Loose". I have taken a look randomly at other suspension components and seen no real damage. I did however notice a damaged (circumferential cracking.) Outer Tie Rod end Ball joint, thingy. .
    So that is all. I hope someone has had this problem and possibly solved it.
    Thanks guys
    -Zack.
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    #2
    lump on tires, warped rotors, unbalanced, unaligned(doubt it though ), tie rod ends/ball joints(big probability that's what it is )

    i REALLY recommend changing your ball joints/tie rod ends if unsure of the state, VERY dangerous shit there....

    is there any play on the wheel when up in the air?
    Last edited by prNonVtec4u; 08-26-2007, 02:39 AM.

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    Originally posted by d112crzy
    And it can only get better. That's the best part.
    All I gotta really say is:
    People of cb7tuner, this AUTO is NOT a joke. It has impressed ME, the hater of auto's.

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      #3
      There is a minimal amount of play with the wheel in the air.
      Also I suppose I was mostly looking for confirmation here,
      I was going to order the parts...I just need a second opinion lol..
      I'm a wuss I guess.
      They seem to be cheap, so I was going to go for the whole upper/lower/Tie Rod, kit on Ebay...130$...Seems to be alright.
      As for the tires being wapred...Hmm...I am going to get tires for my 240SX Steelies on thursday so I guess we'll see about that lol....
      And I have this feeling about the rotors....They are warped I'm sure.....
      Last edited by zack_odom; 08-26-2007, 02:55 AM.

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        #4
        the ebay kit is kinda iffy.... i'd trust myself a lil more w/ honda parts when it comes down to something so important(even though i'm also running some ebay ones ), just a thought though, you know

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        Originally posted by d112crzy
        And it can only get better. That's the best part.
        All I gotta really say is:
        People of cb7tuner, this AUTO is NOT a joke. It has impressed ME, the hater of auto's.

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          #5
          Hmmmm..your repsonse muddies the waters even more lol...
          How much more money are we talking for the OEM parts?

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            #6
            Ok. first and foremost. Which parts off Ebay? there are some that are abosolute shit, take my advice. Second opinions are good to get. Maybe also post up some links as to what you are going to purchase.

            It sounds like its either a loose balljoint. The tierods are cheap, and easy to do. Do them in a pair. The UCA is easy to replace as well. There may be minimal play when you try to move these by hand, but consider rolling down the highway applying brakes, it will add to it. Could be warped rotors as well. hard to say. Generally speaking, warped rotors you will feel at almost every speed right down to a stop, they will also pulse when coming to a stop and the braking will vary.


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              #7
              sorry for the laziness and not looking up the price but go here:

              www.hondapartsdeals.com

              that'll give you an idea and then you can maybe hit up your local Honda dealership if decision is made

              THEN: 1993 Accord 10th Ann. Ed.---------------------- NOW: 1996 Accord EX
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              Originally posted by d112crzy
              And it can only get better. That's the best part.
              All I gotta really say is:
              People of cb7tuner, this AUTO is NOT a joke. It has impressed ME, the hater of auto's.

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                #8
                Originally posted by starchland
                Ok. first and foremost. Which parts off Ebay? there are some that are abosolute shit, take my advice. Second opinions are good to get. Maybe also post up some links as to what you are going to purchase.

                It sounds like its either a loose balljoint. The tierods are cheap, and easy to do. Do them in a pair. The UCA is easy to replace as well. There may be minimal play when you try to move these by hand, but consider rolling down the highway applying brakes, it will add to it. Could be warped rotors as well. hard to say. Generally speaking, warped rotors you will feel at almost every speed right down to a stop, they will also pulse when coming to a stop and the braking will vary.
                Ahh...I see now....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...154388196&rd=1 that was my intended purchase...
                But I dont know..50$ each from the Dealer for Tie Rods. And 139.51
                for one arm...The cheap bastard in me just wants to say. well let's just get the cheap stuff....But I am not sure of the quality....I have never had any real problems with buying ebay parts before...
                I mean does the fact that all the feedback from this seller is positive in the last year? Also The specific part I am purchasing recieved good reviews as well..
                CHEAP PRICE!! GOOD QUALITY!! 1 DAY SHIPPING!! AMAZING!! xela_127 ( 6 ) Aug-25-07 22:52
                94-97 HONDA ACCORD Complete Front Suspension Kit (#120153311843) US $119.99 View Item
                great products, no problems, bid on! nitrolis ( 24) Aug-25-07 19:11
                90-93 HONDA ACCORD Complete Front Suspension Kit (#120150159636) US $119.99 View Item
                fast shipping, ! ! ! +++ filamboy ( 7 ) Aug-25-07 18:55
                94-97 HONDA ACCORD Complete Front Suspension Kit (#120151759921) US $119.99 View Item

                I mean...I dont know though..If anyone has had bad experiences let me know...I am seriously tempted here....
                So also due to your response, I no longer feel that my rotors are warped.
                Becuase I only feel the hardest vibrations at 58-71 mph...so think it is going to be the suspension pieces indeed.
                Last edited by zack_odom; 08-26-2007, 01:28 PM.

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                  #9
                  well im just speaking from experience. I bought UCA's from him and within 6 months the rubber was all dried up and shredded, i should have kept the old ones to put back on. this guy is located in Toronto, anyone who has used these parts will agree they are garbage. youd be better off using a napa replacement.


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                    #10
                    Hmm...good info..
                    Well I am more worried about the structure of the parts...
                    is that sound? I would like to replace will all poly so having these nice clean parts to work with would be good...If the structure is good, then I cant beat the price.
                    But if the whole thing is garbage then fuck it.lol

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                      #11
                      sorry to hijack this a bit, but i'm kinda experiencing the same thing. It starts from 60mph and goes to 70mph when im just cruising on the highway. only the wheel shakes not the whole car and I had new UCA and lower balljoints put on about a year and a half ago. My car does ever so slighty go to the right though in a distance of 500ft at 70mph. Do u think an alignment would take care of this problem?

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                        #12
                        Well I mean that only the steering wheel shakes too....
                        But Alignment is in the cards for you fer shure lol..

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                          #13
                          well i had the same problem. once i go up to 60 and up and i brake the whole steering wheel and breake pedal will shake very bad.

                          all i did is change the rotors and it did minimaze the problem but it still persisted a little bit.

                          when i was changing the passenger axle i found that there is play on the wheel bearing......

                          so what i am about to do is change the following...... wheel bearing, lower ball join,, and all the bolts in the wheel assambly....
                          i plan of doing this all at once.....
                          are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet

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                            #14
                            the structure of the parts is ok i guess. If your doing poly bushings, then keep your stock parts and replace it. will be cheaper


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                            "the character of a man can be judged by how he takes his criticism"
                            "Quoting yourself is like, masturbation" -Starchland

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                              #15
                              Hmmm..So simply getting new bushings would fix the problem?
                              I believe I may have no choice about getting a new tie rod though...

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