Not starting

[N9netwoAccord]

ok heres the problem... my car wont start when your turn the key, but it will start when you push it and pop the clutch...

we've tried jump starting it with another car, it would slowly try to turn over, then act as if the battery was dead....

same thing with a battery booster...

before when it wouldn't start, and we put the battery booster on, it brightened up all the interior lights/dash lights and the door ringer thing.

when i turn the key, nothing happens, the lights will cut out, no cranking or anything.... we've tried tapping the starter numerous times and no go.... i'm thinking battery or alternator? anything you guys can suggest?

[Ilikebigbutts]

Could you explain further the condition in which the car will actually start a bit more?

ILBB

[Ilikebigbutts]

the lights cut out when you try to start it?starter cable could be shorted.Check around that area...

ILBB

[SN2BH22CB7]

FIRST..is your starter making a clicking noise...if it is...then you might want to check the grounds..or the starter solenoid wire is loose...check the wires first...

if it cranks...then its not your starter.....if it DONT crank...then it might be your starter/ main relay / ignition switch ...one of those....or something SIMPLE...a fuse!!



NOW...if your dash lights are dim...check your battery connections..are they on tight??? are the connections corroded??? Is your alternator plugs on tight??? check the connections and plugs ( battery and Alternator )

(loose alternator plugs or corroded battery connections result in weak or dead battery!)

if so...then your battery is weak..and its time to get a new one!!!

BUT..you said...you got a boost ..and nothing...

so...my guess is maybe your starter is going out!

while you're at it....change out the ignition switch!!!!

NOTE: go over ALL YOUR GROUNDS in the starting sequence!

ignition...fusebox...main relay...starter...grounds....just check everything!

but more than likely if your starter is clicking its either its going out....OR....might be a loose wire or ground!


so all I can say is DOUBLE/TRIPLE CHECK EVERYTHING..before you replace parts!

GOOD LUCK

try changing out these:

Starter
Battery
Alternator
Ignition switch ( left side of column/end of lock cylinder assembly )
Main Relay ( grey box under dashboard )

and you'd be good!!!!!

OH shit...almost forgot...when dealing with ANYTHING with the ignition...disconnect the battery....if you don't you might blow the ( IG 50 amp fuse )

just a reminder...because I forgot to do that...when I changed out my Ign. Switch I blew that 50 AMP IG fuse ...so...whenever you're dealing with the ignition or anything electrical..make sure you disconnect the battery!!..don't want you blowing a fuse like I did..

[N9netwoAccord]

i was thinking its a ground, but haven't checked them yet... but when i turn the key to start the car, the dash board lights cut out (connections are clean and solid) and it either wont make a noise, or it will make the ticking sound like a dead battery... but it only starts when you do the old push and pop technique

[Ilikebigbutts]

i would follow the positive wire from the battery to teh starter.

ILBB

[SN2BH22CB7]

i was thinking its a ground, but haven't checked them yet... but when i turn the key to start the car, the dash board lights cut out (connections are clean and solid) and it either wont make a noise, or it will make the ticking sound like a dead battery... but it only starts when you do the old push and pop technique

yo..do this....


change out that Ignition switch....that might be your problem!!

because thats what I was just going through here this past week...when mine wouldn't start

go to turn the damn key...to II and no dash indicators....and it wouldn't start....

turn the key to III and back it a little to between II and III...and it would start...



do this...


get in your CB...turn the key to start...WITHOUT the clutch pedal down...does the dash indicators come on????????

CEL...OIL...Battery?????


one of those 5 points in the ignition might have bunrt out...hence making you lose continuity in the process of starting....

I could be off...but its a start somewhere to getting your CB up and running!

BUT..first most...check ALL your fuses

the box under the hood..and the one in the kick panel on the driver side!

check those and come back and post!!

[SN2BH22CB7]

i would follow the positive wire from the battery to teh starter.

ILBB

yeah..try that...

that could be an easy fix!!!

[N9netwoAccord]

yea i'm gonna check out all the fuses and grounds tomorrow when its light out... then i'll let you guys know whats up

[SN2BH22CB7]

aight...get some sleep!!...dont need to be straining your eyes trying to see them fuses and shit>....

[N9netwoAccord]

how do you test if the ignition switch is bad?

[N9netwoAccord]

so i think it was the starter ground, i ended up just moving it around tightening it up a little bit and tuh-duh! it starts... so i'm gonna try takin it out for a drive and we'll find out if thats what it was

[Ilikebigbutts]

i had a similar problem before.unbolt the ground starp and go over it with sand paper to get rid of the rust.Do the same on the surface it bolts up to.

ILBB

[SN2BH22CB7]

how do you test if the ignition switch is bad?

use a Multimeter...to test the continuity!

take off the steering column cover..( top and bottom ) "screws on the under part ( about 5 or 6 screws )

take off the kickpanel fusebox cover.....you will see a BROWN connector..above the fuses!!..just above it

UNPLUG it...its a seven pin connector with 5 wires ( white-black/ white / black-yellow / yellow / black- yellow ) it goes DIRECTLY to the switch!

you will have to check the continuity of the terminals!!!!!!!

let me help you!!

you will need the help of a friend to turn the key while you're testing each phase!

NOTE:: DO NOT PRESS CLUTCH

O/I/II/III

look for these wires on the connector of the switch for each phase to test!!

I = White-black ( ACC ) / white ( BATTERY )

II = White-black ( ACC ) / Yellow ( IG2 )

III = White ( BATTERY ) / Black-white ( ST )

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white-black ( white wire w/ black stripe )

black-white ( black wire w/ white stripe )



for each phase ( I II III )

you will need to have the key turned to that phase to test the continuity....

if the continuity isn't present ( replace the switch )

OHMS...test it on OHMS...might want to put it on the highest
( OMEGA sign )

[SN2BH22CB7]

thats tight....it was just your ground wire!!

tight!!

now she starts and runs....and you didn't have to tear anything apart....