why is susp. bouncy?

[tomace234]

i'm riding on agx's and h&r race springs, supposedly the same thing as neuspeed race springs...i have them set on 3 in the front and 5 in the rear, it can get a little bouncy but i am positive that i have everything installed correctly. the main thing that bothers me is the damn weel gap. i expect no gap left when i bought the setup and i have a 2 inch gap all around. the way i see it, i should have just bought the cheep ebay stuff cause the ride would suck but at least the car would sit where i want it to...

[owequitit]

Great post owenquitit,

Sadly you probably lost alot of folks. AGX are great struts for the money, Koni Yellows are better. Neuspeed Race springs with AGX are a good setup. You should not be bouncing. Make sure you installed your sup. correctly.

- Zipcreature

I tried to keep it reasonable. I can only try to help provide info, it is up to whoever is reading/listening/learning to use it.

I probably could have summed it up with the brake analogy though.

Sometimes I get wordy.

[phatdoughnut]

They're not shit, rated best on the market right now. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1104049

everyone on there pretty much goes against what you just said?

So can I pretty much assume now that the KYB AGX Adjustability is useless ?
I have AGX's now and I had Tokico illuminas before, I did notice that changing the settings on the KYB's isn't as noticeable as when I changed setting on the tokicos...I think the graphs show me why, interesting. Very cool thread

I dont know how much wayned payed for his AGXs, but they can usually be had for around 260ish a set give or take some. They are ok shocks, definatly not the "best on the market" as you would say.

[Maple50175]

I see. Im thinking about getting some coilovers. Tenzo Rs or something like that. I hear there good springs.

[phatdoughnut]

and tomace234, and wayne are right. You should have just bought cheap stuff because obiously you are just in it for looks and not performance reasons.

[MonopolyMan]

everyone on there pretty much goes against what you just said?





I dont know how much wayned payed for his AGXs, but they can usually be had for around 260ish a set give or take some. They are ok shocks, definatly not the "best on the market" as you would say.

and tomace234, and wayne are right. You should have just bought cheap stuff because obiously you are just in it for looks and not performance reasons.

As far as reperformance they arnt top notch, I guess I should have clarified what I said, I was referring to quality and longevity of the shocks. The Koni's are highly known for blowing out after 6 months or so, along with the Tokico's. I've read that the bilsteins are very long lasting but dont perform as well as the agx's which will last longer the both koni and tokico's. This is all from what I've read, correct me if i'm wrong...

[owequitit]

Well the Tokico Blues I dealt with on the CD5 were at least a couple of years old.

[chile]

i've read nothing but good things about konis...and agx's...this could be solved by you experimenting with your settings and finding a suitable setting for you...and owequitit, nice blurb. my head hurts.

[phatdoughnut]

in the years that i have been here, the only problems that ive heard with the yellows is the C clip breaking. konis have the best warrenty, if they break send it in and get a new one, or take it to the shop you bought them from.

Tokico blues from experience suck ass.

As far as reperformance they arnt top notch

You are right, they arent top notch, but i dont think i once read in that thread that AGxs where better then konis?

some more quotes from that thread

does it bother you guys that koni yellows have absolutely no compression adjustment?

neither does any shock in that price range. if i wanted compresson adjustment i would have goten the 3011's or AD's. but those are two different ball games

for $500/set, not at all

You shouldnt need one - compression controls the unsprung weight, and once its set you shouldnt have to worry about it. "set it, and forget it!"

Real shocks right here, which i havent seen them listed for accords, if you call koni you can prob order them.

For that kind of coin you can get Koni 3011's......

Figure $400/corner without springs or top hats. They are custom built, double-adjustable, steel body (the 3012's are the alum body).

Mmmm...that does sound nice. What's the price difference for the 3012s? (Having held an aluminum body and a steel body shock, that weight savings would be awfully nice).

IIRC its alot it sends the coilovers over 2000 i *THINK*

So When no one can really afford to buy an h22a, and always complain that they want one, do you think they can afford to drop 1600 on shocks alone? when all they do is daily driving? not even my AutoX friends use 1600 shocks, they all use koni/GC combo.

i think your top notch shock comment is out of everyones dreams.

[Accord R33]

my AGXs and sportline springs were not bouncy at all. i find it strange that yours are.

[Maple50175]

Ill try and Make a vid of me driving and u can see the car bounce if it comes out. Also it could be the front drivers side shock.

Ones who went to the CT meet know what im talking about,...

[starchland]

The problem is not that the AGX are are "shit", its just they are an improper match for your race springs. Basically your spring is too stiff and your shock absorber cant dampen that fast.

[arrozburner]

i have agx and s-techs and my ride isnt bouncy at all

[Noxidea]

Man I Dont like the sound of this , I just Bought Springs off of someone Neuspeed Race , and im about to install but now im affraid what shocks do i get ?? please someone answer this for me cause i dont like loose rides i want it to be really firm any suggestions ??? Please Help

Thanks
-Sean- Noxidea

[MonopolyMan]

Man I Dont like the sound of this , I just Bought Springs off of someone Neuspeed Race , and im about to install but now im affraid what shocks do i get ?? please someone answer this for me cause i dont like loose rides i want it to be really firm any suggestions ??? Please Help

Thanks
-Sean- Noxidea

Pair em up with some Neuspeed koni's