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    Auto to manual swap problem 91 EX F23A

    This is my first manual swap , clutch, throwout bearing, all that, this is my first time doing it. Now I start the car and the clutch pressure level is low, until it gets half way down, but even worst I can put the tranny into gear without engaging the clutch as if it were engaged already. Pressing the clutch makes no difference, no noise or anything but when I put it into gear it shakes a little, even though this was my first time I used a haynes manual and followed it to the T. Any suggestions on what I may have done wrong whether it be clutch installation, pressure plate, or throwout bearing. Just wanna know more before I take the tranny back down.
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    #2
    So when the car is on or off you can put it into gear? If the car is off that's normal. If it's when the car is on you put the car into gear and it doesn't move? Like it's staying in nuetral? It could be your throwout bearing was installed wrong. Which is causing your clutch to stay disengaged. Have you had anyone look at the slave cylinder to make sure it is moving when you press the clutch pedal in? Was the slave new? It could have been rusted and locked up leaving it in the disengage position causing your clutch not to disengage. My slave was rusted and locked up from sitting on my parts car for~1 year. You bleed the clutch and everything? I know I had to go buy an $80 vacume brake bleeder to do my clutch I spent at least 15 hours trying to bleed it before giving up and letting it sit for about 2 months. Are you absolutely sure the tranny was in working order before you put it into your car?

    Those are a few starting points. Maybe someone else can come in and chime a few more things in. Let us know how it goes.


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      #3
      Which Way was the Clutch Plate Installed into the Pressure Plate?
      Springs facing towards pressure plate or away?
      Was the Flywheel Machined or is it New?
      Did you lubricate the Clutch Fork?
      Did you install the Clutch Fork Correctly?

      As tweeaks said Check the Clutch Slave Cylinder & bleed the clutch
      Also check the Clutch Mastercylinder as well for sticking.

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        #4
        did u bleed the system after installing...if not, you prolly gotta assload of ait in there....take you about 20 min to bleed it


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          #5
          Taken tranny down today

          Thanx for your replies, I have already bleed the system, check to see if slave was working and slave is new, I took off the slave cylinder, started the engine and put it into gear but this time it went into gear very smooth and the rite side axle was spinning instead of the left. Decided that something in the clutch assembly had to be wrong so I took off the tranny, unbolted assembly and everything looked right to me except for one thind. The flywheel wasn't fully tightened, so i spent 15 mins on a good tightening sequence. The clutch disc was installed the right way, it has words on it that says facing flywheel. I put the Pressure plate back on and now it got too late so I will continue Friday maybe. Anyone ever hear of a loose flywheel causing this??
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            #6
            How are you putting it into gear without the clutch? Just throwing it in while rev matching?

            I'm sure a loose flywheel would cause all sorts of problems....it's a good thing you caught it now, hopefully before it has had the chance to ruin anything.


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              #7
              I dont know

              I have no idea why it was goin into gear. With the car on, and the slave installed, I put it into gear and the engagement was rough, shaking while its in gear and the left side axle was spinning, but when the slave is off it went into gear smoothly and the right side axle was spinning, but it is supposed to block it from going into gear. Is there anyway to test it with the pressure plate installed, should I be able to turn the clutch with the clutch tool while it is installed between pressure plate and flywheel?
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                #8
                Install clutch again

                So I bolted the tranny back on, and started it up, no axles in, and without steppinh on the clutch peddle it allows me to put the shifter into gear. Ever heard of a bad tranny going into gear?? Shit doesnt make sense but that fuckin tranny is so heavy, makes me wish i kept it auto.
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                  #9
                  From what I've gathered you say you selected the gear while the engine was running and it went in but was rough and only one axle was spinning.

                  Manual Transmissions have Helical Cut Gears with Syncros. This is so you can achieve a smooth gearshift while the gears are still spinning at speed when the clutch is depressed. If the engine is at idle and you select a gear without the clutch it will still select the gear, albeit a little rough, due to the load on the gears. Unless you have a LSD in the Tranny, sometimes only one side will spin, this is normal.
                  In reality you may have wasted your time pulling the tranny back out, but it is a good thing you did to find out the Flywheel was loose, because if a flywheel comes off at 6500 rpm they turn into a very efficient Buzz Saw. Through the Gearbox housing, through the transmission tunnel and through your legs.
                  At the Tech College I went to there was a V8's Flywheel wedged into the ceiling. It come off during an Engine Dyno Test. The teachers left it there to remind the students of the dangers of loose flywheels.

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                    #10
                    Damn

                    Thanx for the info man, especially about the flywheel, i need my legs. Im juss goin to put everything back on, axles, suspension and wheels and see how it feels. But when I try to shift any other manual car into gear at idle, it will block the shifter from going into gear.
                    FOR SALE on cb7tuner only for now. Want it in the right hands
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                    I do swaps in NYC/LI area: Hit me up for a quote.

                    MY WHIP
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                      #11
                      With a little bit of GP you can do anything!!

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