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    #16
    i would say around 150ish....maybe 155 at the max.....stock is 125 i think so 20-30hp gain is about right. to the wheels it is probably much less (120 or so lol) get some UR pulleys and that'll jump up about 10hp give or take......also depends on how good condition the motor is in!!!!! if it in bad shape then maybe 140 but if it in good shape then 150ish. u upgraded the 3 key things to making a car run (air,fuel,spark).

    u can easily get 180crank hp NA style w/o spending alot....don't listen to those unimaginable people hehehe

    i would hope boosting would get u more than 180hp lmao rofl rofl rofl rofl pretty pathetic for boost. even for spray lol.
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      #17
      Originally posted by accrdpower
      i would say around 150ish....maybe 155 at the max.....stock is 125 i think so 20-30hp gain is about right. to the wheels it is probably much less (120 or so lol) get some UR pulleys and that'll jump up about 10hp give or take......also depends on how good condition the motor is in!!!!! if it in bad shape then maybe 140 but if it in good shape then 150ish. u upgraded the 3 key things to making a car run (air,fuel,spark).

      u can easily get 180crank hp NA style w/o spending alot....don't listen to those unimaginable people hehehe

      i would hope boosting would get u more than 180hp lmao rofl rofl rofl rofl pretty pathetic for boost. even for spray lol.
      yes listen to this guy....he knows everything....i wont even get into a heated debate.....from your suspension posts its not worth my time........

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        #18
        Originally posted by accrdpower
        get some UR pulleys and that'll jump up about 10hp give or take.
        umm if u say so, i think id take about 5 or 6 off of that

        Originally posted by accrdpower
        u can easily get 180crank hp NA style w/o spending alot....don't listen to those unimaginable people hehehe.
        easily, without spending a lot? find me an N/A f22 making 180 hp that they didnt spend a lot on.

        Originally posted by accrdpower
        i would hope boosting would get u more than 180hp lmao rofl rofl rofl rofl pretty pathetic for boost. even for spray lol.
        umm, one of the best boost setups on this site (accord_r33) had just over that, and trust me, it wasnt anywhere near pathetic.

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          #19
          honostly,,,,,just because your head has been prted doesn't mean that it's gonna gain alot. without camshafts with ported heads, there's no use of porting it. but i' say around 135hp.
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            #20
            my friend has an integra LS with intake, full exhaust, and a new cam and his dyno only showed 135/112.... so that gives you an idea of how little these things add.

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              #21
              Originally posted by 93accordexcoupe
              umm if u say so, i think id take about 5 or 6 off of that


              easily, without spending a lot? find me an N/A f22 making 180 hp that they didnt spend a lot on.


              umm, one of the best boost setups on this site (accord_r33) had just over that, and trust me, it wasnt anywhere near pathetic.
              i know erics setup wasnt much more than that and it was great. couldnt of said any of this better man.....

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                #22
                Originally posted by 91accord4door
                u only have one header.....since u have a inline 4 engine. and im betting your making 140-145 or so..........to the crank. thats being generous...your motor stock is 125-130hp (f22a6)....so im giving you a gain of about 20hp.......hate to burst your bubble but your hoping for f/i #'s.
                Originally posted by 91accord4door
                yea well a CAI is a CAI and a short ram is a short ram...they all do the same shit....slapping a quality filter on it is what matters.
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                Originally posted by 91accord4door
                yes listen to this guy....he knows everything....i wont even get into a heated debate.....from your suspension posts its not worth my time.
                Your leaving yourself a bit open to criticism on other posts you've made champ. Being a bit Hypoctitical there aren't we mate.
                93accordtuner asked for an opinion on how much HP he should gain.
                'accrdpower' gave his opinion and you gave yours.
                What makes yours any better, Get over yourself for fuck sake!!!

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                Last edited by F22-GURU; 01-13-2006, 04:45 AM.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by GEN46L
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                  Your leaving yourself a bit open to criticism on other posts you've made champ. Being a bit Hypoctitical there aren't we mate.
                  93accordtuner asked for an opinion on how much HP he should gain.
                  'accrdpower' gave his opinion and you gave yours.
                  What makes yours any better, Get over yourself for fuck sake!!!

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                  powers reply was outlandish......and 180hp out of a stock engine without f/i and spray is not cheap.......

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by 91accord4door
                    nice.
                    yea man he got u good, i mean.....good

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                      #25
                      Go spend $50 bucks and have it dynoed. Otherwise it is speculation, hypothesis and guesswork. Leave all of that to the bench racers and politicians.

                      Besides, then you know exactly what you actually have, whether any future mods really make a difference or not and if anyone raises you can prove them wrong.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by owequitit
                        Go spend $50 bucks and have it dynoed. Otherwise it is speculation, hypothesis and guesswork. Leave all of that to the bench racers and politicians.

                        Besides, then you know exactly what you actually have, whether any future mods really make a difference or not and if anyone raises you can prove them wrong.
                        exactly. each engine puts outs different amounts of power based on various things, one of which is condition, quality of wires/parts put into it, ect. You cant guess with any accuracy how much power it will/does put out. Best to just go to a dyno. Its about like saying my car wiht a stock a6 mani feels like im putting out 220. its horse shit.
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                          #27
                          i doubt your putting out near FI and h22a power.

                          to get any real Hp numbers out of what youve done, you need to go tune it.
                          H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

                          190.3whp 155 wtq - with bolt ons, and a dc header

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                            #28
                            owequitit hit the nail on the head. There's no point in guessing... too many factors are involved!

                            What motor is this anyway? F22A1 with the A6 manifold? or F22A6 with a modified stock manifold? There's a 15hp difference (from new stock... I'm sure there are plenty of variations based on condition now...)

                            First off: Your Prelude intake is probably a bit too wide. You're losing low end power there. Unless your P&P head and exhaust components can flow anywhere near that of an H series, you don't need that big of an intake.

                            Second, we have no details about your head. Was it a DIY job? Did you pay good money to have it done? It could be a work of art... or it could be rediculously hogged out ports... P&P alone, even a good job, doesn't do too much without a good cam and some valvetrain work.

                            Third, your exhaust... is it a muffler shop special? Crush bent crap? Or is it a quality exhaust? Does it match up to your 3" intake to flow the amount of exhaust it would need to flow?

                            Fourth, your Pacesetter header is probably no better than an F22A6 piece. Pacesetter products are only good for one thing, and that's making money off of cheap, ignorant tuners (no insult intended...)

                            As for the rest of your mods:
                            Apex N1 tip - does nothing for power. Maybe makes it look cool, and might cut the noise a little... but that's all.
                            Full MSD ignition (wires, blaster coil, unit, etc...) - Also not really power-producing. Such mods are necessary for higher powered cars, and they will ensure that a mild car runs properly... but don't expect double-digit gains from this stuff...

                            An F22A1 with all that added to it MIGHT be making 150 at the crank. However, due to the mismatch and overall low quality of the parts listed (assuming your exhaust isn't quality... you wouldn't need a tip on a quality setup) I would think you would be making less... Your powerband is probably fairly high and peaky at best anyway.



                            If you really want to know, hit a dyno. That's the only way. Even then, all dynos aren't created equal. They usually have mobile dynos at large events. This spring, when some car show or race event comes to your area, go with $50-$80 to test your car out! That is, if you don't have a shop nearby that has a dyno.

                            If you really want to see some gains with your setup, here are my suggestions:

                            Get a good cam. At least a Delta 272 regrind (regrinds aren't the best, but Delta is the best of them)
                            To go along with the cam, get an upgraded valvetrain. Before you put anything in, rip that head off again and get a good 3 or 5 angle valve job. The cam and the valve job will justify your P&P work... you'll actually gain SOMETHING from the combination.

                            Get a good exhaust. Go for something mandrel bent, stainless if you can afford it. Be sure to get a good free flowing muffler as well. www.kteller.com sells pre-measured mandrel bent piping, and you can get an Apexi WS axleback. That would be a nice flowing system, without being obnoxiously loud.

                            Chuck that header!!! Get something decent. DC Sports is probably the easiest to find for a fair price.

                            That intake might or might not be hurting you after all that. The extra power created by an AEM intake is minimal when mild builds are concerned. It's nice bling, but a $30 short ram will probably only make 2-3hp less overall, and it'll still give a little more low end and throttle response. I'd rather spend the extra $250 saved by NOT buying the AEM intake on something that makes more power! You can find a used nitrous system for $250 if you look hard enough!






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                              #29
                              almost everywhere u can hear or read how much hp a car has will tell u the crank hourse power, thats how much hp the motors making, whp is how much power ur makin to the wheels...they sayy f22a6's have 140 hp...its porb more between 110-130 whp

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                                #30
                                most of the stock f22's (crank hp of 135 are running anywhere from 105-120whp depending on condition).....and yes u can get 180CRANK HP with little money, again for what i say little money is others will think is a fortune but for under 3k 180crank hp can be acheived.....and excuse me but if a TURBO'ed f22 can't make over 180 CRANK hp that is pathetic. i would expect it to be around 200hp give or take. 180hp is only a 40hp gain.....think alittle bit guys lol gawd i give up on ignorant people.......there are sooo many variables when it comes to hp and such any opinion would probably work within a certain degree.

                                and yes the parts listed seem to be on the "crappy side" for the most part......more looks than performance. but get a cam, do some tunning and u will be on your way.....and yes the pulley SET will put out about 10hp again give or take....some may get 5 some may get 15 all variable.

                                and accrd4door.....with your knowledge that you profess u have....it doesn't surprise me how ridiculous your comments sounded. i won't even waste my time arguing over the profoundness of your accusations.

                                but again to the topic at hand......get a few more quality parts, do some research, do a service on it, tune the crap outta it ........it all about finding the balance between good parts, parts that work in unicen with each other, and tuning them to be the most efficient.
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