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    engine timing troubles

    Ok i have been posting heavily on HAN, and i figured i would come here cause you guys know my car better. Anyways i rebuilt the whole engine, top to bottom the head was completly rebuilt.. ect. ect.

    i started reassembling the engine replaced practicly everything in the engine bay (winter time). So i get it all back together and start the engine.

    The engine ran fine it purred and i let it run for about 30mins at idle. perfect idle everything, so i rev it to about 2.5k it coasts smoothly and i have a giant grin on my face.

    I take it for a test drive and all is good. After like 10 mins of driving i decide to give it a little but more gas (i never went over 2.5k) so i hit and in 2nd and the tires kinda chirp and it takes off (i was supprised, that engine builder did good) at 4.5k i shift and its all good.

    so on my way home from the test drive, out of no where, the tach spikes like crazy (going all over from 2-8k) then all my gauges die i hear a clicking and the car stalls no matter how much gas i tried to give it.

    i had to call a tow cause it wouldn't start and the next day it started right up but if i reved to 3k it would die and stall the same as before.

    now the engine will not start at all, i took the belts off it was slightly out of time (tensioner sliped i belive) so i retimed it and it wouldn't start (it still backfires really bad while tring to start).

    there is suction in the exhaust. so i moved all my plug wires over 90 degrees and pushed the distributer way back and the car would start but then die, and that is the only way i can get it to start.

    I Have no IDEA what is wrong with this car, and the cam timing seems to be off, i put the engine in TDC, with the marks on flywheel and crank, the cam is in "up position" and lined up with block. and the distributer is 90 degrees outta time, it should point at #1, but its pointing at #3... is there any why thats possible the cam is one solid piece???

    I am sorry for the novel (i have tried searching) if you read this i commend you on that alone, if anyone can help that would be greatly appreciated
    Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide
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    #2
    so the tensioner sliped and the timing got out of whack?Posibly bent valves.Have you talked to the guy that built it?Ask him for your $ back and do it your self.

    Whatever you do, dont let those fuckers get away with not torqueng the tensioner right.

    ILBB
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    Originally posted by DarkShadow707
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      #3
      no they built the head P&P ect. i put it on, no bent valves. i F'ed up on the tensioner. i also think i may have sloved my problem... kinda.

      the tensioner slipped (3 teeth) so i retimed the engine and correctly installed a new tenioner (can never be to sure) and it still wouldn't start, so i took the distributer apart and found that it wasn't outof time, the plugs got moved around by a friend and i just assumed they where never touched. so what i though was #1 position was actually the #3... after switching the wires in right position everything sounds normal (engine time ect.) but now im not getting spark on any of my wires????

      so i think as soon as i get spark she should fire up...
      Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide

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        #4
        i thought th etiming could of been so out of whack the the valves would still be open when the piston came up,thus benting them.Also, how did you check to see if you got spark or not?

        ILBB
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        Mk3 Supra Member #2

        Originally posted by DarkShadow707
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          #5
          Originally posted by Ilikebigbutts
          i thought th etiming could of been so out of whack the the valves would still be open when the piston came up,thus benting them.Also, how did you check to see if you got spark or not?

          ILBB
          well i took the spark plug wire, and stuck one of the thousand plugs laying around my garage and then held it up to the valve cover while someone turned the engine over. i tired everywire and all of them where dead, where as yesterday everyone of the wires was fine.

          i also just called my moms BF, he said he took my distributer off and "cleaned the terminals" so who knows what he did... all i know is i had spark before... i wish people would leave my car alone.

          is there anyway to check the ignition coil, like if i pull the plug off the distributer and hold it close to the Valve cover will it arc it? cause i tried that also and never got an arc.

          BTW: reading all theses other posts of "no spark" im getting scared, like everyone of the threads has everything that they replaced, but still no solution, i hope my thread dosn't become like them...

          RANT: and i just ran out of propane for my HEATER
          Last edited by GreenMadness; 12-14-2005, 07:23 PM.
          Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide

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            #6
            you can check the coil if you have a volt meter. pull off the cap, rotor, yada, yada, then check the prongs to the black and yellow wire connected to the coil. Check it with the key turned forward to engine accesory. Then check the remaining two wires (Blue/Green?). Resistance shouldn't be more than 1-3 ohms and they will all hopefully be at 12 volts. If not you probably need a new coil. Check the Igniter to make sure but cant remember how to do that one. The Procedure is in the Haynes Manuals.

            -Andre

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              #7
              i was messing around in the engine bay and accidently tugged on a wire then the car started... it stalled and i looked and the wire was back down... so if i hold the wire up i can run the car.. i will investigate where it leads tommrow with some heat
              Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide

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                #8
                Update: i was a little angry (and i accidently left the car in the on position) and i reached down and grabbed the wire harness by the coil... all the sudden i heard a clicking noise (im still trying to track it down) and the wire from the ignition coil sparked and continued to spark... so i hooked it back up and had someone turn car over and it started. but as soon as i let go the car died. so i will pull back the cover and see if any wires are broken

                sorry for seeming noobish, i just dont post here very much.
                Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide

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                  #9
                  Update: well my ground on Thermo housing was coroded so after i cleaned it up everything was good. i took it for a test drive and she is fine. only problem is it seems like some of my bottom end is gone, like under 2k in 2nd and i dont get any change in speed not even at WOT... but at about 3K if you hit the gas it pins you head to the seat so who knows.

                  Devin
                  Engines hate me... thats why they commit suicide

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