A6 headers on a A1

[ray ray]

well that very well could be but everyone ive tried and i have tried alot of them they have all fit together ive done four of these for my friends.and i have the h22 top part and the a6 bottom if someone wants to see if that will fit ill find out tommorrow.

[According2Aaron]

... but i've never seen an f22a1 with an o2 sensor underneath, they're always up top in the casting aren't they?
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Yes.

[AccordWarrior]

wasn't there a 91 EX that used the f22a6 or something? doesn't deckeda have one? and maybe the 90 a4 was an oddball since it was the first year.........if i have time saturday, i'll go down to the junkyard and see if i can look around

The 91 SE and Wagon had the F22a6.

[owequitit]

I deleted my post because it isn't worth going around and around on...

I decided I have better things to do, but then you started to come across in a fairly agreeable manner, so I figured I would chime back in. I never say things I don't mean, and I don't back down either.

Nobody said all of anything was EXACTLY the same. Honda is notorious for that. On some years on some cars there are 3 different A/C compressors, alternators, distributors so on and so forth.

You are the one that came into the post with the self righteous, nutgrabbing manhood, poo flinging (as usual).

I have seen it and it has been done, so clearly it is possible. Whether or not it is the result of a fourth design, I do not know. I personally haven't encountered a problem getting them to mate. Maybe I am just lucky.

Fortunately, I am also well versed in Honda's. I know that it is the flange that was different. I also know intimately about the design difference of the A1, O2 location differences etc. I can also say without a doubt that the bottom section of the A6 manifolds I have seen are identical to the A4's. Welded flanges, mandrel bent tubes and all. EXACTLY the same as my A4 and every other A4 I have seen. Perhaps, there are other designs too, I am not saying there aren't. I just haven't seen any.

[owequitit]

Here we go again with the ignorant round and round. Shouldn't you be selling your CB7 for a mullet and a Camaro?

yeah, whatever, anyway, my main point is that the a4 HEADER is better than the a6 EXHAUST MANIFOLD........that's what people were bickering about on page one if you'll look at it.........."well the a6 had to have the better header, blah blah blah" ...........that's what i'm talking about..........

I think the rest of the group has determined that already. Since you read the whole post, you would have seen that I posted that quite some time ago. Of course reading and comprehending are two uniquely different things.

here is my whole problem with you and rayray, if stupid member X comes in, sees you saying that the a6 manifold will bolt to the a4 a-pipe, he may lose out when he purchases one that he knows will work.....because they don't all work..........some may work, but some definitely do not, all i can speak from is experience, and on more than one occasion they have utilized different flanges for my own projects........wasn't like the a1 a-pipe either, so i dunno....there are at least 4 different part numbers for the 3 motors though, and all the a1's supposedly use the manifold mounted o2 sensor, all the a4/6's use the a-pipe mounted design, so what the hell is the 4th part number for?

You have a problem with me and ray ray because we post based on our experience? Isn't that what you do? Isn't that what you said you do? Great! HOORAY FOR FIZZBOB! Your experience is different than ours. Nobody debated that they weren't all the same. What we debated was this post right here:

people, you're wrong, the f22a4 is the ONLY stock header on the 90-93 accord....the f22a1 has a cast manifold with a 4-1 design, the f22a6 has a cast manifold with a 4-2-1 design, but the f22a4 is the only header......this has been discussed......the f22a4 downpipe and f22a6 downpipe LOOK alike too, but the bolt pattern is different

anyone with balls enough to put money on me being wrong, be my guest, i had ALL 3 earlier this year in a side by side comparison......do some searches, you'll see

Clearly it has been proven that this statement is false, because I have done it and so has ray ray. Nobody ever said there weren't four designs. Nobody said that they all worked together. What was said is that is possible and has been done. Don't believe if you don't want. I have seen it. Reality is harsh, but it never lies.

as for this statement: You are the one that came into the post with the self righteous, nutgrabbing manhood, poo flinging (as usual).

you must not understand the meaning of self righteous because it can in no way pertain to anything i've posted here.......if you don't grasp the meaning of big words, then don't try to act like you do.........you could have said "you're not being nice" or "you're being an ass" or whatever, i'd have not cared like i do not care now, and you'd get over it or waste a large portion of your life crying about it.........the line to bitch about that is long.........take your number........

You passed school, but clearly English wasn't your strong suit.

Self-righteous (adj): Piously or smugly convinced of one's own righteousness. Webster's II New Riverside Dictionary

Righteous (adj): Meeting the standards of what is right and just.
Webster's II New Riverside Dictionary

Commonly applied in colloquial terms: Someone who thinks they are always right and if it isn't their way, it is wrong. Often used to describe ultra religious right wing fanatics who try to tell everybody else how to live their life.

Let me know if you need me to define colloquial for you.

My point is this, I'll spell it out for you, You are an asshole. You could have just come on here and stated that your experience was different, but you had to try to bring everyone else down instead. I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you are just making yourself look like a bigger dick.

[oneoffaccord]

im not going to read every post but the a6 has a 4-2-1 design, i rather get this one. why go with a stock design just go out and buy a aftermarket header. more power and looks alot better than that stock pos.

[ray ray]

lol i agree man get rid of all of them and just buy a good header lol.
and you know you might be right ricky the wagon may be different than ours.or the 91 se may be the different one.

[airridewagon93]

Yes, the A1 is definately a manifold. The A6 is cast, but has a better design that the A1. The A4 is a header; it has four tubes that come off the head and merge from 4>2>1.

So, if you swap exhaust side, do A4. If you swap intake side, then you want the A6.

you need to do more home work on cbs cause all ex,a4s,a6s are header. all of my accords have had headers they were all ex s

[ACC0RD22]

you need to do more home work on cbs cause all ex,a4s,a6s are header. all of my accords have had headers they were all ex s

did you even read the thread? seriously now . . . did you read this thread. the a6 has a cast manifold. the a4 has a tubular header. if youve have all ex wagons, then youve had all a6's with cast manifolds . . .

[accordaffair]

C'mon guys, lets all settle. Simma don naw.

The A6 manifold is a cast manifold, the thread ricky linked to early on has a picture I took of the a6 mani I have sitting in a box here next to me.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/attachme...achmentid=2338
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/attachme...achmentid=2339

I don't have an a4, but the a6 is def. cast.

[owequitit]

The A6 is certainly cast. I tried to explain that earlier or in another thread that was pretty much identical to this one. Casting has nothing to do with design. It is possible to have a 4-2-1 design that is cast.

Casting is a construction method, not a design. It is like having a 3 bedroom brick house and a 3 bedroom framed stucco house. They are both 3 bedrooms, and they can even have the same exact design (floorplan) but they are not built the same.

Two solutions here. Just like everyone else said, just buy an aftermarket header, they do look better and you can find a decent one like Megan or Weapon R for not a lot of $$.

If you are dead set on a manifold, the A4 is the best. If you pick one up in a junkyard for a good deal, make sure you get both pieces off of the same car. That way you KNOW they bolt together.