Exhaust System Newbie | How to make exhaust quiet?

[SOHC-FTW]

You haven't looked near hard enough. Thats like saying why have a 600whp cb (or any aftermarket parts worth a damn), it's just a turd.

KEY WORD ENTHUSIAST, this is why people spend money on any chassis they enjoy worth it or not.

[Kamatari+]

Thank you for all of the suggestions guys ! I now feel like I actually have options. No matter what, that blasted test pipe gotta go. So much noise.

[Mike1357]

Thank you for all of the suggestions guys ! I now feel like I actually have options. No matter what, that blasted test pipe gotta go. So much noise.

This right here, is a great idea. I think these prices are a bit inflated but that's me. I've seen the GReddy exhausts sell on here for under $300 shipped and I know someone who grabbed an RS*R for $300. You just have to be on your toes and be ready to jump on the good deal. A good way to save some money is to buy just the high flow catalytic converter core itself (can't remember the name of the company we used at work) and have the test pipe cut and the converter welded in as opposed to buying one from a name brand company such as Magnaflow and so on.

[H311RA151N]

You haven't looked near hard enough. Thats like saying why have a 600whp cb (or any aftermarket parts worth a damn), it's just a turd.

KEY WORD ENTHUSIAST, this is why people spend money on any chassis they enjoy worth it or not.

Myself and a few others get sick of every thread about exhaust systems, there are a select few that always say "WS2". Like it’s the only exhaust worth a shit.

I put it down time and time again because for one, most of the people who ask about exhausts are relatively new to CBs or new to cars all together. What happens when your only suggestion to them is to spend damn near $1000 on an exhaust system and perceive it to be the only real way to go, it can discourage them. Not everyone can spend a grand on a single part. And some might feel that that they can’t "play the game".

Not all enthusiasts spend thousands of dollars for their parts, and you don’t have to spend thousands to be an enthusiast.


Anyways, there was an RSR in the classifieds for $300-$400 a day or two ago. It might still be there.

[Losiracer2]

Myself and a few others get sick of every thread about exhaust systems, there are a select few that always say "WS2". Like it’s the only exhaust worth a shit.

I put it down time and time again because for one, most of the people who ask about exhausts are relatively new to CBs or new to cars all together. What happens when your only suggestion to them is to spend damn near $1000 on an exhaust system and perceive it to be the only real way to go, it can discourage them. Not everyone can spend a grand on a single part. And some might feel that that they can’t "play the game".

Not all enthusiasts spend thousands of dollars for their parts, and you don’t have to spend thousands to be an enthusiast.


Anyways, there was an RSR in the classifieds for $300-$400 a day or two ago. It might still be there.

How the hell is a WS2 a 1000 bucks?! I paid 630 shipped for mine back in June. They can be had used for less than 400.

Is driving down the freeway without an annoying drone not worth it to you?

Save up for a month or so and buy something nice instead of wasting 160 shipped on a shitty Ebay catback.

[TAMPA]

How the hell is a WS2 a 1000 bucks?! I paid 630 shipped for mine back in June. They can be had used for less than 400.

Is driving down the freeway without an annoying drone not worth it to you?

Save up for a month or so and buy something nice instead of wasting 160 shipped on a shitty Ebay catback.

In the OPs particular instance it can cost almost a grand. He has to buy the catalytic converter also and if its been hacked up he might have to take it to an exhaust shop. Still might not be quite a grand but might aswell be.

So the WS2 is the only exhaust that doesnt sound like crap?

[H311RA151N]

How the hell is a WS2 a 1000 bucks?! I paid 630 shipped for mine back in June. They can be had used for less than 400.

Is driving down the freeway without an annoying drone not worth it to you?

Save up for a month or so and buy something nice instead of wasting 160 shipped on a shitty Ebay catback.

No one was saying get an EBay cat back. You’re the only one who made that reference.

For the record you don’t have to have a WS2 not to have a drone.

Used or not the WS2 is still made out of mild steel. And the "shitty eBay cat back tubing" will outlast the WS2s.

But yeah the muffler and resonator on the EBay cat backs are junk. But that don’t mean you can’t replace them with better pieces.

[Losiracer2]

In the OPs particular instance it can cost almost a grand. He has to buy the catalytic converter also and if its been hacked up he might have to take it to an exhaust shop. Still might not be quite a grand but might aswell be.

So the WS2 is the only exhaust that doesnt sound like crap?

Pretty much that or an RSR EX Mag. I've had both and they were both excellent off the shelf, bolt-on exhausts custom made for our cars.

The WS2 i'm a little disappointed in the ground clearance. My B pipe scrapes everytime going up the driveway. My RSR never did that, it hugged the chassis way better. But I'm willing to overlook that for the nice tone it gives.

I also had a GReddy EVO2, compared to the RSR and Apexi, the quality was far worse. It had considerably more raspiness than the RSR and Apexi as well. But I paid about 365 shipped for that back in 2004...back when even the Apexi was selling for 429.

What you can also do is get a Civic Si Catback. I tested that out for a little while but it was suprisingly too quiet for me, I wanted a bit more. It sounds a tad bit raspy in the upper RPMs but that's because I just used the factory resonator that came with it. Total I had about 210 invested in it after converting it from a 06-08 Civic Si catback system to a bolt on catback for our CB7s at a muffler shop. I paid 110 for the catback off my local honda forum.

Here's a video link:


Civic SI


Apexi WS2


RSR EX MAG

No one was saying get an EBay cat back. You’re the only one who made that reference.

For the record you don’t have to have a WS2 not to have a drone.

Used or not the WS2 is still made out of mild steel. And the "shitty eBay cat back tubing" will outlast the WS2s.

But yeah the muffler and resonator on the EBay cat backs are junk. But that don’t mean you can’t replace them with better pieces.

Doubt the Ebay catbacks will outlast my WS2. The welds are complete shit compared to the craftsmanship of the Apexi. There is a difference. Plus its not just mild steel, its coated with titanium particle coating, in the 6 months I've owned it, there's zero surface rust.

[SOHC-FTW]

Messed my point entirely. While even when you began to asked questions on this very subject long ago did i suggest a ws2? no i said piece one together. This option does work, but any quality setup cost and some just like to bolt things on and go so both suggestions are worthwhile and with the ws2 you know forsure the tone.

This is why i earlier in the thread suggested a OE replacement and a cutout, you will be silent when cruising and have the flow if you need it at the flip of a switch. It's the best of both worlds.

[H311RA151N]

Pretty much that or an RSR EX Mag. I've had both and they were both excellent off the shelf, bolt-on exhausts custom made for our cars.

The WS2 i'm a little disappointed in the ground clearance. My B pipe scrapes everytime going up the driveway. My RSR never did that, it hugged the chassis way better. But I'm willing to overlook that for the nice tone it gives.

I also had a GReddy EVO2, compared to the RSR and Apexi, the quality was far worse. It had considerably more raspiness than the RSR and Apexi as well. But I paid about 365 shipped for that back in 2004...back when even the Apexi was selling for 429.

What you can also do is get a Civic Si Catback. I tested that out for a little while but it was suprisingly too quiet for me, I wanted a bit more. It sounds a tad bit raspy in the upper RPMs but that's because I just used the factory resonator that came with it. Total I had about 210 invested in it after converting it from a 06-08 Civic Si catback system to a bolt on catback for our CB7s at a muffler shop. I paid 110 for the catback off my local honda forum.

Here's a video link:


Civic SI


Apexi WS2


RSR EX MAG



Doubt the Ebay catbacks will outlast my WS2. The welds are complete shit compared to the craftsmanship of the Apexi. There is a difference. Plus its not just mild steel, its coated with titanium particle coating, in the 6 months I've owned it, there's zero surface rust.

If I found a brand new WS2 for $429 I would jump all over that, Im not going to lie. In an instant.

Stainless steel is stainless steel and Mild steel is just that. I went over the welds on my catback with a mig because they wernt that good. That is kinda a PITA but still. I saved a shit ton of money and I have an exhaust that sounds good and will last a long time.

And for $600 you have an exhaust that drags the ground. Mine doesnt and I payed less than half that. How long until that scraping causes surface rust? You have already scraped that titainum coating off.

The cheapos have flaws aswell as the high end ones sounds like to me. Im not defending the cheapos by any means, thay are what they are, but for the money the high end ones are not that much better.

Messed my point entirely. While even when you began to asked questions on this very subject long ago did i suggest a ws2? no i said piece one together. This option does work, but any quality setup cost and some just like to bolt things on and go so both suggestions are worthwhile and with the ws2 you know forsure the tone.

This is why i earlier in the thread suggested a OE replacement and a cutout, you will be silent when cruising and have the flow if you need it at the flip of a switch. It's the best of both worlds.

I think I got your point to its entirety. And I responded and defended my point pretty well I think.

Long ago you gave me an idea, a quite good one I might add, I took that idea and done my research WHILE YOU DEFENDED THE IDEA against the same exact people and terms as now IIRC. Except now you don’t agree with the idea you gave me. Or at least not like you did then.

I haven’t gone against anything here close minded like some. I’m being honest and giving credit where credit is due. That’s it. My goal isn’t to piss anyone off; it’s to prove a valid point. Period.

BTW the cut out idea has crossed my mind a few times. Thats not an invalid point either.

My idea on that was to run the louder muffler out the back in the stock location. This way (if the muffler is nice and presentable anyway) you can see it. Then install the cutout in front of the muffler and route the second passage to towards the driver side and install a small, quiet muffler between the spare tire spot and the bumper with a turn down. You might need to add a heat shield back where the secondary muffler would be though. IDK I havent looked hard at it yet.

[Losiracer2]

I think its scraping on the flange. which is pretty beefy. Either way its kinda annoying i wish they would of thought about the people buying their products. 99% of the people that buy them have a lowered car

[H311RA151N]

Yeah that’s no biggie. That shouldn’t hurt anything. Kind of annoying though like you said.

I’d much rather have a scrape on occasion than a rattle on an exhaust shield.

[SOHC-FTW]

No you missed it, as i corrected your buddy on saying very few were worth $700 exhaust. My point was if that were the case then we should all frown upon people with $300+ head lights, $1000+ wheels, $10,000 engine setup's. If you spend $700 on a exhaust thats a better option to me than some upgrades.

I absolutely do not disagree with a custom exhaust, i would go that route hands down every time. I also see the point in buying a bolt on great sounding off the shelf exhaust, it's much easier and a guarantee sexy sound. Some folks don't have the time to do the shop and research time and would rather spend 30min's bolting one up is all.

I could careless who runs what, but saying something isn't worth it is a bit broad especially when dealing with enthusiast and a chassis we all like in some shape or form.

[H311RA151N]

Oh ok. I completely agree 100% with you then. Damn. Sorry for misunderstanding what you said then.

[TAMPA]

No you missed it, as i corrected your buddy on saying very few were worth $700 exhaust. My point was if that were the case then we should all frown upon people with $300+ head lights, $1000+ wheels, $10,000 engine setup's. If you spend $700 on a exhaust thats a better option to me than some upgrades.

I absolutely do not disagree with a custom exhaust, i would go that route hands down every time. I also see the point in buying a bolt on great sounding off the shelf exhaust, it's much easier and a guarantee sexy sound. Some folks don't have the time to do the shop and research time and would rather spend 30min's bolting one up is all.

I could careless who runs what, but saying something isn't worth it is a bit broad especially when dealing with enthusiast and a chassis we all like in some shape or form.

I meant that some owners might not see it worth putting that high dollar of an exhaust on. Alot of people only paid a few hundred for the whole car.

I fixed my post your refeering to btw.