Automatic Seatbelt

[accordmaniac]

I need to replace Belt Warning Control module.

SM2 12V RK-0222 for 1991 Accord Coupe.

I searched ebay for used one and no luck.

Where can I buy one?

[wildBill83]

Take the car to Honda, I believe seatbelt systems are warrantied for life of the vehicle.

[reklipz]

Take the car to Honda, I believe seatbelt systems are warrantied for life of the vehicle.

The Honda dealer has told me on many occasions, and many others on the forum, that the warranty applies only to the mechanical function of the seatbelts, not the electrical. This was one of the very first things I looked up when I got my accord, because mine did not function. Fortunately for me, I was simply missing the control module underneath the passenger seat, and the first one I pulled from the JY worked flawlessly.

When I was reading, mostly on honda-tech at the time, they all cautioned against installing the module if you were uncertain if yours worked or not. They said the buckles can get stuck in the track, and other than forcefully returning the buckle to the rear of the cabin, opening it and fixing it is a huge PITA.

I'm not certain if the Belt Warning Control module is the same thing, but I suspect it is. Honda claims the original warranty does not extend to this part.

As for where to buy one, do what I did and hit up a JY.

[wildBill83]

reklipz, the customer is always right... Have a pretty girl ask them for parts, if they say no tell her to make pouty eyes at them until they comply.

[reklipz]

reklipz, the customer is always right... Have a pretty girl ask them for parts, if they say no tell her to make pouty eyes at them until they comply.

If mine wasn't already working fine I'd be tempted to give this a try. It looks like the OP will have to do our bidding instead. OP, go grab yourself a hidden camera with a good mic and bring on the entertainment!

[Losiracer2]

They wanted to charge me $120 to fix the motor in my D/S door, they fixed but I was under the assumption it was free, so I had to bitch and complain since all they really did was grease the contacts and charge me a 2 hrs of shop labor for that. Still ended up paying 60 bucks for it, since they wouldn't let me have the car if I didn't.

I sold the car a couple months later and a couple months after that, the guy calls me up and says the seatbelt isn't working.

So, if they try to sell you something, or try to "fix" something don't go for it, especially if you have a 90-91 accord with the motorized belts. There's fine print and you're likely to overlook it.

But FF to today, I have another 90 Accord 4dr and a different dealer fixed the lap belt 100% free.

So its ONLY the non-motorized parts of the belts that are covered, buckles, and belts. Anything dealing with the track, modules, or motors aren't covered and are considered wear items.

[4U2H8ME]

With as many seat belt discussion and threads regarding warranty on our seat belts, and the several times I have posted copies of the warranty, has anyone thought to search instead of speculating on what is and isn't covered. Please check here and scroll down. You will now know what is covered under the life time warranty of our seat belts.
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...69#post3052069

[wildBill83]

But you see the warranty is vauge.

"Warranty Coverage:
Seat belts that fail to function properly during normal use are covered under warranty for the useful life of the car.

Warranty Does Not Cover:
*Malfunction due to abuse, alteration, accidental damage or damage resulting from a collision or misuse.
*Replacement of a properly functioning seat belt for cosmetic or comfort reasons."

The OP never said he abused them. I would argue with them about the warranty if they refuse.

[4U2H8ME]

But you see the warranty is vauge.

"Warranty Coverage:
Seat belts that fail to function properly during normal use are covered under warranty for the useful life of the car.

Warranty Does Not Cover:
*Malfunction due to abuse, alteration, accidental damage or damage resulting from a collision or misuse.
*Replacement of a properly functioning seat belt for cosmetic or comfort reasons."

The OP never said he abused them. I would argue with them about the warranty if they refuse.

How is it vague? you clearly just explained it, But if you want to put into laymans terms. If the seat belts fail on their own, just stopped working then they are covered. If they stopped working because you or someone tampered or altered the wiring or the design of the car in which it affect the seat belts or damage from a collision affected the system the coverage is null and void.
Additionally the seat belt indicator has no control over the seat belts operation, it just indicates whether or not your seat belt is in use. That is why that component is not covered.

[wildBill83]

Oh, it is my reading comprehension that fails. I thought the seat belts were not operating, not that the warning module was not functional...

I meant it was vague on mechanical components on what was considered a wear item as Losiracer was talking about.

[4U2H8ME]

Oh, it is my reading comprehension that fails. I thought the seat belts were not operating, not that the warning module was not functional...

I meant it was vague on mechanical components on what was considered a wear item as Losiracer was talking about.

In losiracers case they took advantage of the fact that he didn't know better, and did a patch job on him that can be debated. Additionally he is still under the impression that motorized seat belts are not covered when they are. I personally suggest members make a copy of the bulletin and take it with them to the dealer, this way when the advisor tells them its not covered, you show them it is . Then at that point its up to the dealer to prove that outside influence caused the failure, cause it will be the only way they can deny you the repair.

[Losiracer2]

In losiracers case they took advantage of the fact that he didn't know better, and did a patch job on him that can be debated. Additionally he is still under the impression that motorized seat belts are not covered when they are. I personally suggest members make a copy of the bulletin and take it with them to the dealer, this way when the advisor tells them its not covered, you show them it is . Then at that point its up to the dealer to prove that outside influence caused the failure, cause it will be the only way they can deny you the repair.

This is what it says in the VERY first paragraph:

"warranty policy for the front seat belt replacement is to replace either the belt/retractor mechanism or buckle when either does not work properly. Warranty covers the replacement of the failed half of a belt, not the entire assembly."

Nowhere in there does it state it covers the motor/guide track for the seat belts. JUST the belts and the buckle. Thats it.

[4U2H8ME]

This is what it says in the VERY first paragraph:

"warranty policy for the front seat belt replacement is to replace either the belt/retractor mechanism or buckle when either does not work properly. Warranty covers the replacement of the failed half of a belt, not the entire assembly."

Nowhere in there does it state it covers the motor/guide track for the seat belts. JUST the belts and the buckle. Thats it.

On the labor guide on page 2. "front anchor shoulder belt rail assembly(motorized)". If you read the very top it states "from my days at Honda". I was a tech then a service advisor. We replaced the motorized retractor under warranty. If the retractor doesn't bring the belt back so that it secures the driver and passengers its a safety issue.

[accordmaniac]

I looked ebay once everyday and could not find it.

If anyone have good working Belt Warning Control Module

RK-0222 for Accord Coupe, I would like to buy it in resonable price.

I would like to have transaction thru Ebay. (Buy it now)

Thanks.

[reklipz]

I looked ebay once everyday and could not find it.

If anyone have good working Belt Warning Control Module

RK-0222 for Accord Coupe, I would like to buy it in resonable price.

I would like to have transaction thru Ebay. (Buy it now)

Thanks.

I'm sure I can find one for you, and I can confirm that it works with my 91 LX Coupe. Just let me know and I'll make it happen. What is a reasonable price?