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    changed dizzy o-ring and it still leaks????????

    About a month ago i found that my cb was leaking oil....a lot about a whole damn quart a week. so i checked where it was coming from an saw it was the dizzy. i changed the dizzy o-ring that connects to the cam and yeah stopped for like 30mins and has been going strong ever since. could it be that Honda gave me a bad o-ring or what???? only thing i haven't done is buy another dizzy, but i feel that won't help either. has anybody else encountered this problem?
    Originally posted by Makaveli2k
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    Originally posted by Accrdkid
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    #2
    There is an external seal between the distributor housing and the head and an internal shaft seal. From your description, you replaced the outer seal between the distributor and the head (Honda doesn't sell the internal seal). Is the oil leaking around the outside of the distributor, or coming out of the cap at the bottom?
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      #3
      leaking on the outside of the dizzy. Also, should the said o-ring have a vertical play? When i say vertical i mean (with the dizzy detached) with the cap in your hand and you can move the o-ring about 1cm upward and downward?
      Originally posted by Makaveli2k
      Be a man. Grab on the crank pulley with one hand, hold some chloroform over the air filter and "Shush it to death".
      Originally posted by Accrdkid
      Hey did you earn your Red Wings? Red Wings being you muffed dived that coochie and tasted copper and got the red mustache.

      No matter how far you go, the same path lies in front of you. "ユメクイ"

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        #4
        it happened to me, change your valve cover gasket too, put a new one and tighten your valve cover ... you shouldn't notice any leaks ... sometimes it feels like the dizzy but the cover gasket may be the culprit.
        Clean under the distributor with carb cleaner first in order to detect if it still leaks or not .... be careful for the sensor under the dizzy
        Last edited by EsperHamid; 09-18-2012, 12:09 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Jkid View Post
          leaking on the outside of the dizzy. Also, should the said o-ring have a vertical play? When i say vertical i mean (with the dizzy detached) with the cap in your hand and you can move the o-ring about 1cm upward and downward?
          it can't move there are the groove that go inside the camshaft.

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            #6
            tried it today and there is oil still leaking from that hole.... its getting frustrating.
            Originally posted by Makaveli2k
            Be a man. Grab on the crank pulley with one hand, hold some chloroform over the air filter and "Shush it to death".
            Originally posted by Accrdkid
            Hey did you earn your Red Wings? Red Wings being you muffed dived that coochie and tasted copper and got the red mustache.

            No matter how far you go, the same path lies in front of you. "ユメクイ"

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              #7
              What hole is it leaking from? Is it coming from the weep hole at the base of the distributor?




              If it is then that is the internal seal that is leaking. Inner seal part number - NOK BH 3888E.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jkid View Post
                You can move the o-ring about 1cm upward and downward?
                You have the wrong size O-ring.


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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jkid View Post
                  leaking on the outside of the dizzy. Also, should the said o-ring have a vertical play? When i say vertical i mean (with the dizzy detached) with the cap in your hand and you can move the o-ring about 1cm upward and downward?
                  This is the seal you need, direct from Honda it was $8 IIRC.

                  Originally posted by Mishakol129
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by GhostAccord View Post
                    What hole is it leaking from? Is it coming from the weep hole at the base of the distributor?




                    If it is then that is the internal seal that is leaking. Inner seal part number - NOK BH 3888E.

                    weird it looks as though it is coming from there... but when i take the dizzy off there is a trail of oil originating from center of the dizzy



                    the o-ring i got was number six was that the right one. and mines has a external igniter.
                    Originally posted by Makaveli2k
                    Be a man. Grab on the crank pulley with one hand, hold some chloroform over the air filter and "Shush it to death".
                    Originally posted by Accrdkid
                    Hey did you earn your Red Wings? Red Wings being you muffed dived that coochie and tasted copper and got the red mustache.

                    No matter how far you go, the same path lies in front of you. "ユメクイ"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jkid View Post
                      the o-ring i got was number six was that the right one.
                      #6 O-ring means nothing.


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                      A "Finished" project car is never finished until its been sold.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jkid View Post
                        weird it looks as though it is coming from there... but when i take the dizzy off there is a trail of oil originating from center of the dizzy

                        the o-ring i got was number six was that the right one. and mines has a external igniter.
                        If you take off your distributor cap is there oil inside the bottom of the distributor? You may have to remove the rotor and dust shield to see.

                        #6 is the external O-ring. Your image does not show the distributor shaft internal oil seal, nor does Honda sell it separately. Honda describes it as part of the housing.

                        And FYI your coil is external, not the ignitor...
                        Last edited by GhostAccord; 09-18-2012, 09:35 PM.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by evil_demon_01 View Post
                          #6 O-ring means nothing.
                          Originally posted by GhostAccord View Post
                          If you take off your distributor cap is there oil inside the bottom of the distributor? You may have to remove the rotor and dust shield to see.

                          #6 is the external O-ring. Your image does not show the distributor shaft internal oil seal, nor does Honda sell it separately. Honda describes it as part of the housing.

                          And FYI your coil is external, not the ignitor...
                          Pwnd myself, Image not showing at work.
                          Assumed he was saying A size #6 O-ring.

                          As for the internal seal, We sell them at Honda.
                          Part number is 30105-BH3888E for 12.5 x 22.5 x 6mm

                          Any bearing/seal place should be able to provide you with one at those dimensions.


                          Car Safety / General Servicing Checks --------Basic suspension checks

                          My 5.7 LS1 Holden Ute

                          A "Finished" project car is never finished until its been sold.

                          If at first you don't succeed, Try again. Don't give up too easily, persistance pays off in the end.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by evil_demon_01 View Post
                            Pwnd myself, Image not showing at work.
                            Assumed he was saying A size #6 O-ring.

                            As for the internal seal, We sell them at Honda.
                            Part number is 30105-BH3888E for 12.5 x 22.5 x 6mm

                            Any bearing/seal place should be able to provide you with one at those dimensions.
                            It's about time Honda started to carry and sell these things to the public somewhere. I went to my local Honda parts counter and specifically asked for the NOK BH 3888E and they said that they don't sell them. Had to get it from a machine shop instead. Probably cheaper from the machine shop then the dealer anyway....lol
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GhostAccord View Post
                              If you take off your distributor cap is there oil inside the bottom of the distributor? You may have to remove the rotor and dust shield to see.

                              #6 is the external O-ring. Your image does not show the distributor shaft internal oil seal, nor does Honda sell it separately. Honda describes it as part of the housing.

                              And FYI your coil is external, not the ignitor...
                              There's no oil in the Dizzy at all... actually for it the be almost 20yrs. old it looks brand new so i put it back on and started the car and let it run for about five mins after getting to norm op. temp. and no oil leaked. cut the car off and it started dripping! that to me makes no sense.
                              Originally posted by Makaveli2k
                              Be a man. Grab on the crank pulley with one hand, hold some chloroform over the air filter and "Shush it to death".
                              Originally posted by Accrdkid
                              Hey did you earn your Red Wings? Red Wings being you muffed dived that coochie and tasted copper and got the red mustache.

                              No matter how far you go, the same path lies in front of you. "ユメクイ"

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