Balance shaft belt

[H22A91CB7]

if your balance shaft belt is broken, will it keep the car from firing up or the cam rotating??

[C91BLX7]

if your balance shaft belt is broken, will it keep the car from firing up or the cam rotating??

Nope and nope.

[H22A91CB7]

Nope and nope.

are you sure because my dizzy cap would not rotate when i turned the key it would just turn over and my timing belt wasnt broken but the other belt was i think its called the balancer belt

[Shadow1]

are you sure because my dizzy cap would not rotate when i turned the key it would just turn over and my timing belt wasnt broken but the other belt was i think its called the balancer belt

theres the balance shaft belt and the timing belt. the balance shaft belt is in front of the timing belt. you dont even need the balance shaft belt up there. theres something else wrong with your car homes.

[H22A91CB7]

theres the balance shaft belt and the timing belt. the balance shaft belt is in front of the timing belt. you dont even need the balance shaft belt up there. theres something else wrong with your car homes.

Damn....so if my car is turning over but the rotor isnt turning on the dizzy then wats wrong with it

[HondaFan81]

Damn....so if my car is turning over but the rotor isnt turning on the dizzy then wats wrong with it

If one of the front belts are broken and your dizzy rotor is not turning, you more than likely are supplying us with bad info and do not truly know what is the timing belt vs balance shaft belt.

The timing belt rotates the camshaft and water pump. If the camshaft moves (via Tbelt), then the dizzy rotor turns....period.

[Shadow1]

If one of the front belts are broken and your dizzy rotor is not turning, you more than likely are supplying us with bad info and do not truly know what is the timing belt vs balance shaft belt.

The timing belt rotates the camshaft and water pump. If the camshaft moves (via Tbelt), then the dizzy rotor turns....period.

exactly.

Damn....so if my car is turning over but the rotor isnt turning on the dizzy then wats wrong with it

the only thing i could think is wrong is:

1) your cam sprocket is broken

2) the teeth that are on the dizzy that turn with the cam shaft are broken(although ive never heard of this before).

3)your timing belt is broke and all your doing is tuning the crankshaft.

take the timing belt cover off and check it out under there to see what exactly isnt turning or what is broke.

[H22A91CB7]

If one of the front belts are broken and your dizzy rotor is not turning, you more than likely are supplying us with bad info and do not truly know what is the timing belt vs balance shaft belt.

The timing belt rotates the camshaft and water pump. If the camshaft moves (via Tbelt), then the dizzy rotor turns....period.

Man i kno the difference between the timing belt and balancer, the balancer is the one in front, the smaller one, the one on three pulleys....but my question was why when i turn my key over the rotor on the dizzy doesnt turn???? can i test to see if my cam is broken by turning the engine manually by hand and looking at the dizzy again???

[Flatline]

Man i kno the difference between the timing belt and balancer, the balancer is the one in front, the smaller one, the one on three pulleys....but my question was why when i turn my key over the rotor on the dizzy doesnt turn???? can i test to see if my cam is broken by turning the engine manually by hand and looking at the dizzy again???

wow man... get a hold of your temper.


When people try to help you and you get angry, they will probably stop helping you.

Ever think your dizzy might be bad?

[H22A91CB7]

wow man... get a hold of your temper.


When people try to help you and you get angry, they will probably stop helping you.

Ever think your dizzy might be bad?

na my dizzy is fine...i think it has something to do with the cam like shadow said....cas everytime i remove my dizzy the slot where it enters the cam is still in the same place after trying to crank it....but now my engine is out the car.... i cant turn it over with the switch...but um...Shadow!!! what is this sprocket you speak of??

[C91BLX7]

You still haven't taken off your valve cover yet?

[HondaFan81]

Man i kno the difference between the timing belt and balancer, the balancer is the one in front, the smaller one, the one on three pulleys....but my question was why when i turn my key over the rotor on the dizzy doesnt turn???? can i test to see if my cam is broken by turning the engine manually by hand and looking at the dizzy again???

Now you are being more specific, pat yourself on the back. I get irritated when people are vague, now I KNOW you understand which belt is which.

Proceeding...

Is there more to this story on how this motor came to the condition you describe? Tell us everything. I especially want to know if this motor was starved for oil and/or oil light came on prior to this.

If all was fine and this occurred, I would look at the starter, as it is probably not engaging with your flywheel (manual) or flexplate (auto). Therefore, your engine would not turn over at all, nor the dizzy rotor. You can confirm that this is the case by manually turning motor over through the crank pulley screw and if dizzy rotor does start to move, then bingo.

If you manually turn motor over and dizzy rotor does not turn. Either your camshaft is fractured in half or your timing belt does not exist or snapped.

If your balance shaft belts snapped and very low oil or low oil pressure was involved, this makes sense. Balance shafts rotate twice as fast as the crank, so they will be the first to seize in a low oil/low oil psi condition. In coming to an abrupt stop and crank is still spinning, snap.

[H22A91CB7]

Now you are being more specific, pat yourself on the back. I get irritated when people are vague, now I KNOW you understand which belt is which.

Proceeding...

Is there more to this story on how this motor came to the condition you describe? Tell us everything. I especially want to know if this motor was starved for oil and/or oil light came on prior to this.

If all was fine and this occurred, I would look at the starter, as it is probably not engaging with your flywheel (manual) or flexplate (auto). Therefore, your engine would not turn over at all, nor the dizzy rotor. You can confirm that this is the case by manually turning motor over through the crank pulley screw and if dizzy rotor does start to move, then bingo.

If you manually turn motor over and dizzy rotor does not turn. Either your camshaft is fractured in half or your timing belt does not exist or snapped.

If your balance shaft belts snapped and very low oil or low oil pressure was involved, this makes sense. Balance shafts rotate twice as fast as the crank, so they will be the first to seize in a low oil/low oil psi condition. In coming to an abrupt stop and crank is still spinning, snap.

thanks man ill check into that this weekend and to confirm to the other dude yes i have the engine sitting in the garage, ive taken the cover off the timing belt and balancer and valve cover, the cam looks fine even tho i havent turned it over and HondaFan as far as how this happened i have no clue, i brought it from a white lady, she say she was driving it and it just cut off but how do i fix the starter problem if that is the problem....so if i do turn it over manually and the rotor on the dizzy turns then my cam is broken????

[Shadow1]

ill let HondaFan81 talk to ya. he knows ALL the ins and outs of this motor series

[H22A91CB7]

ill let HondaFan81 talk to ya. he knows ALL the ins and outs of this motor series

alright and to be specific this is the f22a, my h22 is in the garage...not enough supplies yet to swap