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    All Automatics with shifting problems, read this!

    For the longest time (since I bought the car, really) I have been having strange shifting problems. The first and most alarming issue was a strange grinding in 4th gear around 37-40 with light throttle applied. The second problem was the car randomly deciding the shift late and deciding not to downshift after that point unless the car was stopped and restarted. The third problem was just a general harshness of shifting. If any of you are experiencing ANY of these problems, I have found the solution. It is not really one simple thing, rather, it is a system of parts that need to be adjusted and working together properly.

    All adjustments are nearly pointless (except for the TPS) if your throttle cable is not adjusted properly.

    1) Make sure that you're throttle cable is adjusted properly at the rotor. You want it to engage right away when you press on the pedal. Remove all play by adjusting the locknuts on the bracket on your plenum.

    Step 2 was the solution to my 4th gear grinding problem.

    2) Adjust your throttle control cable. This cable runs to the transmission. It is easy to adjust; simply push down on the throttle control lever (this is on the transmission, where the cable attaches) until you can't move it any farther, and remove all play by adjusting the locknuts properly. Then have someone depress the accelerator pedal and make sure you DO have a small amount of play when pulling the throttle control level up (you should be able to pull it up about 1/2" even with the gas pedal fully depressed).

    Step 3 was the solution to my random shift delay and absence of downshifting problem.


    3) Make sure your TPS is properly adjusted if it has been modified or changed. This was the most difficult problem to diagnose. First, with the ignition on, put your positive probe on the yellow/white wire, and your negative probe on the green/white wire on the TPS connector. You should read 5V. If you don't, check the wiring going back to the ECU. Then you can backprobe the connector on the drivers shock tower to check the TPS itself, it is the red/black wire. Connect the negative probe right to the negative post on the battery and the positive probe to the red/black wire. With the throttle plate closed, you should get a reading of 0.45V, with it wide open, it should read approximately 4.96-5.0V.

    Step 4 solved my harsh shifting problem.

    4) Make sure you don't have burnt or old transmission fluid. If you haven't flushed your transmission previously, now is the time to do it. I HIGHLY recommend Honda ATF-Z1, it made a large difference over cheap Wal-Mart brand ATF. Yes, it is expensive, but it is very much worth it. When flushing the transmission, you will want to drain it, fill it with fresh fluid, then drive around until the car reaches operating temperature, then drain and fill again. Overall, you want to drain it three times, and will with fluid 3 times. This makes sure to get rid of ALL traces of the old, burnt fluid. You may wish to use cheaper ATF for the first drain and refill, but I highly recommend using Honda ATF-Z1 on the 2nd and 3rd refills.


    If these above steps don't fix your shifting issues, please chime in and explain what the issue is, and I will do my best to resolve it and add the solution to this list.

    I hope this helps some of you dealing with shifting problems!
    Last edited by foamypirate; 03-22-2008, 09:52 PM.
    Originally posted by sweet91accord
    if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

    #2
    great info! for you!

    THEN: 1993 Accord 10th Ann. Ed.---------------------- NOW: 1996 Accord EX
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    Originally posted by d112crzy
    And it can only get better. That's the best part.
    All I gotta really say is:
    People of cb7tuner, this AUTO is NOT a joke. It has impressed ME, the hater of auto's.

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      #3
      awesome info thx!!

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        #4
        You bet! I'm going to try and get a few pictures to go with it to explain the adjustments in more detail.
        Originally posted by sweet91accord
        if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

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          #5
          Great information, thanks for sharing!

          The automatic transmission is no longer in my car though otherwise I would've tried this mauhaha

          I'll check all my cables though when i'm done swapping to five speed, thanks to this diy
          Meh, not feeling the honda game anymore.
          MY CAR IS SOLD!!!

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            #6
            thank god someone posted this....i have all of those problems hahahah

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              #7
              any suggestions on a kick-ass synthetic atf that can take a beating and keep trans. shifting properly?

              THEN: 1993 Accord 10th Ann. Ed.---------------------- NOW: 1996 Accord EX
              My Ride thread
              Flickr
              Originally posted by d112crzy
              And it can only get better. That's the best part.
              All I gotta really say is:
              People of cb7tuner, this AUTO is NOT a joke. It has impressed ME, the hater of auto's.

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                #8
                lots of helpful info . But i got a question on the TPS thing. I have a H23 TB/Plenum, bought, well, from you if I remember correctly lol, but I reused my F22 TPS by slotting the screws and replacing them w/ new ones for the H23 TB. Anyway, should you only have to adjust it if you get some kind of check engine light signaling something's not right? b/c when I swapped the F22 TPS onto the H23 TB, the car didn't give me any CELs or anything, it seems to be running fine so does that mean its working like its supposed to? I just didn't check the voltage after installing it so that's my cause for concern.

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                  #9
                  i dont agree with at all...

                  This is good info and should be moved to the diy section.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Losiracer2
                    lots of helpful info . But i got a question on the TPS thing. I have a H23 TB/Plenum, bought, well, from you if I remember correctly lol, but I reused my F22 TPS by slotting the screws and replacing them w/ new ones for the H23 TB. Anyway, should you only have to adjust it if you get some kind of check engine light signaling something's not right? b/c when I swapped the F22 TPS onto the H23 TB, the car didn't give me any CELs or anything, it seems to be running fine so does that mean its working like its supposed to? I just didn't check the voltage after installing it so that's my cause for concern.

                    When my TPS was out of adjustment, I never got a check engine light. As long as you aren't having any strange shifting issues, I wouldn't worry too much about it being out of adjustment, but if you want to, you can always probe it to see what voltage it is sitting at.
                    Originally posted by sweet91accord
                    if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

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                      #11
                      If a mod could move this to the DIY section as "ENG: Fix your Auto's Shifting Problems," that would be awesome. Thanks!
                      Originally posted by sweet91accord
                      if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Losiracer2
                        lots of helpful info . But i got a question on the TPS thing. I have a H23 TB/Plenum, bought, well, from you if I remember correctly lol, but I reused my F22 TPS by slotting the screws and replacing them w/ new ones for the H23 TB. Anyway, should you only have to adjust it if you get some kind of check engine light signaling something's not right? b/c when I swapped the F22 TPS onto the H23 TB, the car didn't give me any CELs or anything, it seems to be running fine so does that mean its working like its supposed to? I just didn't check the voltage after installing it so that's my cause for concern.
                        I recommend you check it is at .45 volts when throttle is closed.

                        Originally posted by kc8enb07
                        does it come w/ jdm trash? they better throw away gold in it

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                          #13
                          http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39620

                          check this link out....its for a 90-93 integra and im not sure if the accords are the same way but if they are this is a GREAT way to flush your transmission. I did it myself and worked out beautifully

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by xfactortype1
                            This is good info and should be moved to the diy section.
                            I agree hands down..
                            accordtypeR aka Seve aka The Godfather.


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                              #15
                              Can someone move this to the DIY section?
                              Originally posted by sweet91accord
                              if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

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