Starting to save up but im not really sure which to go with. Not sure what can and cant be done to each engine. What would be the best way to go. Let me know your opinion's on the two engines. Thanks.
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I'm sorry, but u should know to search by now...
anyways, h22 is the best motor for the money hands down...the f20 is destroked so there is not as much torque...therefore h22 is better in a gist
oh yea and since ur wondering what can't be done, I would not recommend boost for either engine...u may here, oh f20b is a good candidate for boost...but not at the 11:1 compression it has I beleiveYeah, Preludes
Originally posted by deevergote. -
H22A easy... you can't replace displacement
If I had my way, I'd have a balanced H23A crank in my car... 7% power/torque boost all throughout the rev range...
Plus unless you get the full 5-speed swap, you have no way of making sure you get the 200HP motor over the 180HP one; I'm pretty sure you have to change injectors over, it won't run 100% with a P13, etc., etc... H22A is definitely the way to go.
Originally posted by lordojaComment
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It is a matter of personal preference.
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They're similar. Ask yourself, do you want to rev high, or do you want low-end power?
The differences aren't quite as drastic as it may seem. .2L isn't earth-shattering, and the extra RPMs you get from the F20B aren't astronomically high...
The F20B has a peakier powerband, though. It would be fun, but I'd stick to the H22.
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Put it this way, with the f20b you'll be different and still run hard with some work done to the engine.
Thats just if you want to be different LIKE ME
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Originally posted by gloryaccordy
couldnt agree more..accordtypeR aka Seve aka The Godfather.
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Speaking from experience here, the F20B is an EXTREMELY fun motor, especially in an accord. The thing just purrs up to the 8200 rpm redline. The nice thing about the F20B, if you have an F22 transmission, and you shift at redline, you don't fall out of VTEC. Buahahha. If you do want to boost, get the F20B. While it has high compression, it doesn't have FRM sleeves, so you save yourself about $800 dollars in sleeving costs over an H22. Slap in some low comp pistons and some rods, and you're set. And the torque difference between the H22 and F20B really isn't that much (8-10 lbs?).
However, the H22 is DEFINITELY easier to swap in.
Though, at $1300 for an F20B from Hmotors, I'd honestly get an F20B.
Really just personal preference, they are both an absolute blast to drive.Originally posted by sweet91accordComment
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KA lol i wanna do that swap soo bad93 accord: F22A swap,T3/T4 turbo, tail wastegate, front mount 27x13x3, hks turbo timer, turbo xs boost controller, msd igintion, 3in downpipe, crane cam 11mm plug wires, denso plugs, no ac or ps,wire tuck, cutted insides, one seat, auto meter boost gauge,oil pressure, a/f,and 5 in tach,act clutch and flywheel.
93 prelude: jdm headlights,OEM carbon fiber hood, tein lowering springs, work racing rims with kumho tires, msd wires and denso plugs,type r shift bootComment
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What do you have to get to get it to run with an OBDI ECU though? I know h22sparkle had to get OBDI injectors for the Type-S, and honestly, the car needs a tune. So that adds a good couple hundred dollars to the cost at the minimum.Originally posted by foamypirate
3K+ worth of VTEC would definitely be nice though.Last edited by gloryaccordy; 04-22-2007, 08:40 PM.
Originally posted by lordojaComment
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We just had to use the F22 harness, cut the obd1 injector clips off, solder on the obd2 clips, swap the egr from the F22, and get an OBD1 H22 intake manifold. Right now it's running off of an H22 map scaled for the F20B's 310cc injectors.Originally posted by sweet91accordComment
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For a while i was thinking about going H22 but I just dont understand why i would want to be the same as everyone else. So thats why i was thinking about going F20B. And so far im still thinking about it. I love runin up to 8200 rpms. So far it looks like the F20B would let me be more flexible with either all motor or boost. Anyone else wanna state their opinions?Comment
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Oh I didn't know you could keep all the same stuff. In that case it is just a matter of preference. 8200RPM sounds a lot better than 7500RPM... it might very well be worth itOriginally posted by foamypirate
Originally posted by lordojaComment
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Actually..a turbocharger effectively emulates higher displacement.Originally posted by gloryaccordy
Iv never seen or driven an F20b, so i dont think its really safe to compare it to the H22. What i have driven, though, is a 200bhp 1.8l engine that can rev past 8500, and its fun as shit.
Dont let the lack of torque scare you away. Torque is something a lot of people dont seem to understand.Last edited by Accord R33; 04-22-2007, 10:43 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Accord R33
So are you tellin me thats it's ok not to have that torque or its bad to not have that torque? I honestly want a engine im going to enjoy and love the shit out of. Its not so serious that I need a fast car. Just something faster. Thats fun. Thats why im really thinkin a little less torque wont hurt anything.Comment
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