CB7 V6 Swap Parts List & Methods

[Tnwagn]

I would like to see this swap happen and pictures of the process etc.
Is anyone actually planning on giving this a try in the near future??? This is very interesting!

Lokuputha is going to give it a shot sometime in the next year or so. He might be gather parts and pieces as we speak, but no one knows.

But yeah, if anyone does it, there are going to be a plethora of pics.

[The-Gr8-Ox]

i hope some one goes through with it, maybe talk to hasport's engineers and see what they come up with as far as motor mounts are concerned.

Good luck

[owequitit]

Another more realistic/cheaper alternative

5 spd tranny/linkage/hydraulics from 1st gen Legend

2nd gen Legend motor (preferably Type-II) w/1st gen header

Mounts yadda yadda

Harness/ECU swap from 2nd gen chassis

Custom axles/mounts

V6 CB, for the same amount of work, and everything prob for the cost of a J-series 6 speed tranny, new

This is far from more realistic or easier.

The C32 is A LOT wider than a J. Have you ever seen one? Also, the C32 is designed to be mounted longitudinally, not transversely. That will make the mounts an...issue.

Then you still have all of the wiring headaches, and the engine is heavier to boot, not to mention the distinct disadvantage of a 5 speed vs a 6 speed.

The J is smaller, lighter, has less auxilliary systems (by virtue of more advanced systems controls) has a plethora of available trannies, and is much more common than the C series. Honda produces around 3 million of these engines yearly. The ONLY sticking point is the manual tranny, and even that can be reasonable if you look hard enough. They are just kind of new and hard to come by at this stage, however, realistically, this is probably a year or more off.

Oh yeah, and we haven't even talked about output or powerband yet, where the J stomps the crap out of the C series.

[Tnwagn]

Yup! Glad to know you have my back on that Scott.

But seriously, the C-series engines look and weigh about the same as a battleship

There is a guy who is currently putting a J from a CL-S into his civic. I've talked with him about wiring and he said it wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. He said he would be able to provide any information I needed about the Chassis plugs and their usage if I wanted it. I'm going to get the wiring notes he has taken and compare them to what diagrams I have so far to try and see what any differences/problems would arise with other vehicles.

Working on the wiring right now.

2 of the 3 ECU plugs are straight off the engine harness.

The other plug, E(31pin) runs quite a few of the evap system components, and starter/main relay stuff. This plug is supplied signals through 2 plugs on the chassis of the CL, plugs C102 and C101. Currently I am mapping out the needed and unneeded wires, etc.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2410727


P.S. Glad to see this thread still alive

[lokuputha]

If a Civic can fit in an Accord motor...there is no reason an Accord can't fit in an Accord motor.

well, it runs.

http://s263.photobucket.com/al...1.flv

Need to weld in my rad brackets, install shift linkage, install axles, and clean wiring.

Took video on my cell phone- I have no speakers on this computer, so the quality sucks and I don't know if there is sound

[almostJDM]

just got in talks with a friend; he is getting his dealer license soon and he will have access to all the crashed Honda's with the J-series 6-speeds.

Let's see where this goes; hopefully we'll be able to setup a full V6 swap package for anyone interested.

Aim for the stars right.

if it pulls through put me on your list

[lokuputha]

Video: TOV Video: 2007 Acura TL Type-S 6MT Dyno Test


Video: TOV Video: 2007 Acura TL Type S

[owequitit]

Sadly, those videos are why I have lost interest in doing this swap for myself.

I would rather just have the real thing.

[Tnwagn]

Sadly, those videos are why I have lost interest in doing this swap for myself.

I would rather just have the real thing.

It is temping

But it only takes money to have that

To have a V6 powered CB takes vision

[lokuputha]

Sadly, those videos are why I have lost interest in doing this swap for myself.

I would rather just have the real thing.

u bum!

No one said you can't have a TL and a JSwap CB7 as well.

[owequitit]

It is temping

But it only takes money to have that

To have a V6 powered CB takes vision

Money and a lot less effort. Not to mention all the other nice things you get for your money.

A V6 CB doesn't really require vision. It also just requires money and time, which in pure economic terms is also money.

I just decided not to upset the balance of the chassis, and high revving 4 bangers are fun anyway. So instead perhaps a built H22 CB7 and a mildly build J series car that came that way stock.

[owequitit]

u bum!

No one said you can't have a TL and a JSwap CB7 as well.

LOL! I know I could, but I am just too old now I guess.

I either want something with a J and a 6 speed or a Kraftwerks S2K for my next car.

[Tnwagn]

Money and a lot less effort. Not to mention all the other nice things you get for your money.

A V6 CB doesn't really require vision. It also just requires money and time, which in pure economic terms is also money.

I just decided not to upset the balance of the chassis, and high revving 4 bangers are fun anyway. So instead perhaps a built H22 CB7 and a mildly build J series car that came that way stock.

True, a TL is a much nicer car than a CB is.

I was talking about having the guts to try and pull off a swap like a J-series is what requires vision. But then again, all vision is is time spent thinking, which is money. I guess everything is money.

And the CB chassis probably will need a lot of work to even drive normally with a v6.

[owequitit]

True, a TL is a much nicer car than a CB is.

I was talking about having the guts to try and pull off a swap like a J-series is what requires vision. But then again, all vision is is time spent thinking, which is money. I guess everything is money.

And the CB chassis probably will need a lot of work to even drive normally with a v6.

I don't know that it would need a lot of work, and it is good swap, don't get me wrong. It is just something I have lost interest in. You end up with a 20 year old chassis with a way powerful engine in it, but you still have to deal with the flexy body, the age related issues etc. I love my CB, but there is a lot to love about newer cars too.

What I would LIKE to do is take a 2010 TL SH-AWD with a 6 speed manual and put a rotrex kit on there that would huff in between 10-12PSI. That car has nothing wrong with it that another 100-150HP couldn't fix.

[Tnwagn]

What I would LIKE to do is take a 2010 TL SH-AWD with a 6 speed manual and put a rotrex kit on there that would huff in between 10-12PSI. That car has nothing wrong with it that another 100-150HP couldn't fix.

Word

Then again, I'm 20 and have 7k to my name soooo I don't see that happening in the near future