CB7 V6 Swap Parts List & Methods

[oranger]

Do you think it would be possible to take the ECU to the dealer and give them my key, get a blank from them with an immobilizer in it and have them program the key for the ECU?

I know we have some certified honda mechanics on here. Can you tell me if this would be possible?

Well, no you have to take the whole car, they can't just plug the ECU in. They reprom it wirelessly, so it can be in the car. They can program a key to the ECU, but you have to prove ownership of the car, it's a little tricky because of their liability, you should be able to make that happen.

Just removing the chip will not work. You will have to have an ignition key, lock, wiring, ECU from same car as the engine or it won't work! Best solution: Donor car.

[owequitit]

I have somewhat cleaned the last few pages of this thread up.

1)This thread is by nature speculatory, at least until the swap has been completed, in which case, we will make a definitive how to.

Until then, nobody knows what exact combinations, ECU's, wiring etc will be needed, so you are on your own. If you don't want to figure it out, then don't attempt the swap.

2) 90% of the questions asked on the last few pages have already been covered numerous times on this site in other areas of the forum. They need to be searched for there. The purpose of this thread is NOT to recreate every Honda related question known to man.

If it hasn't been covered on this forum, it has probably been covered on another, so for most of these questions, a simple search is in order.

If you are the type of person that expects a spoon feeding, then you are attempting a swap that is well above your head, because to everyone on this site's knowledge, it has never been done before. Therefore, at this point in time, spoon-fed level detail questions are unanswerable, and thus only waste space and time, and detract from the purpose of this thread.

A 3 word post every hour with an inconsequential update is not necessary to the scope of this thread. Free discussion is encouraged, if it in some way adds something to the overall topic. Otherwise, it has been removed.

3) The ONLY way this swap is going to happen is if someone bites the bullet, spends the money, and figures it out. They have managed to swap these engines into Civics, they have swapped K series into everything, and they have put Toyota engines into S2Ks, so it IS possible. But when you are the first, you have to do the work and figure it out.

4) There is at least one other person in this thread competing for the same thing, and I doubt very much that he is going to want to spill tons of information, so that you don't have to do any work, and can take credit for being the "first."

[zack_odom]

Hmmmmm...
So I had a thought, When you tune with Crome,dont you have the ability to add extra injectors? Why not grab a p72, and add two more injectors?
That seems easy enough.....and there is Coil on plug support also...
Just run it into the Accord Harness...That would work...right?

[foamypirate]

You would run into problems with the ignition system, as the igniter and all sensors are set up for a 4 cylinder motor. The ECU has no provisions for a 6 cylinder engine. It would be extremely difficult to set it up.

[lokuputha]

use a J series motor and J series ECU...done.

Print out a huge diagram of the J series wiring diagram and go one by one and cross the T's and dot the i's.

a good day in front of the wiring diagram should do it. I'll post up the wiring diagram for the J series once I get it converted to JPG.

[owequitit]

I implied it my last post, but apparently it was missed, so I will be more blatant about it this time.

Supertuner, SEARCH.

Stop polluting this thread with questions that we either can't, or shouldn't have to answer.

[owequitit]

I dont know if you knew that there are several HONDA CERTIFIED MECHANICS that work on these cars all day, who have the ability to answer these questions...Did you not know this? Apparently not....

I am well aware of it. I am also well aware that the information you seek is all over the internet, but you are apprarently too lazy to go look for it.

If you want to discuss the swap, without questions that don't need to be here, then fine. If not, then you can have some time off until you change your mind.

It is pretty simple. If you want to ask beginner 101 questions, there is plenty of room in the beginner forums. Otherwise, contribute positively to this thread.

[SuperTuner12010]

I am well aware of it. I am also well aware that the information you seek is all over the internet, but you are apprarently too lazy to go look for it.

If you want to discuss the swap, without questions that don't need to be here, then fine. If not, then you can have some time off until you change your mind.

It is pretty simple. If you want to ask beginner 101 questions, there is plenty of room in the beginner forums. Otherwise, contribute positively to this thread.

Do me a favor, go look on the internet and try and find out what the cls and accords are? Iv been searching for hours and cant find if they are OBD2a or b? Sorry about that but its fustrating, telling me to search when thats all iv been doing...I appologize

I was going to call Acura or Honda but there closed now. Imt hinking it might easier not using the conversion harness...Im thinking of going to the junk yard and cutting the wires that go to ECU with the connectors.

Then depining the connections to the ECU and pinning the wiring onto the one I got from the junk yard...With the diagrams this would be the easiset way imo and wont run into as many problems.

[owequitit]

Do me a favor, go look on the internet and try and find out what the cls and accords are? Iv been searching for hours and cant find if they are OBD2a or b? Sorry about that but its fustrating, telling me to search when thats all iv been doing...I appologize

I was going to call Acura or Honda but there closed now. Imt hinking it might easier not using the conversion harness...Im thinking of going to the junk yard and cutting the wires that go to ECU with the connectors.

Then depining the connections to the ECU and pinning the wiring onto the one I got from the junk yard...With the diagrams this would be the easiset way imo and wont run into as many problems.

That might be easier. And I believe OBD-IIb came around in between 1998-2000 I believe.

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/f146...obdiia-276072/

http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...p?productid=29

http://www.hondata.com/techecuid.html

[SuperTuner12010]

That might be easier. And I believe OBD-IIb came around in between 1998-2000 I believe.

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/f146...obdiia-276072/

http://shopping.lightningmotorsports...p?productid=29

http://www.hondata.com/techecuid.html

Thanks for those...Although I think it would still be easyer to depin the stock accord one and repin the cl connector into the stock accord harness...And from there pinning the cl's motor harness into the accords motor harness matchinhg them to the corresponding wires...It woul be cheaper as well...

*EDIT* Iv never used a conversion harness...I was thinking about it, it may be easyer, do they change were the acctual wires go or keepo them in the same places? All one would have to do is trace each wire to the enigine harness and repin the right connection into the motor harness side.

There acctualy the same concepts now that I think about it, but the first way would be cheaper.Roughly $100 cheaper, for a few hours more of work and a more factory look.

[SuperTuner12010]

For the 5-lug swap, I know people have used the 95-98 Honda Odyssey front knuckles, calipers, hubs, bearing, rotors. But my question is, for those who may now.

Are the 99-2004 Odyssey knuckels the same? I know the bearings are different because they had the J35. Im wanting to know if the knuckles are the same.

Hopefully in a few weeks im going to the junkyard to get the prelude rear hubs and that to do the rear 5-lug and find out what parts im going to need to do the front 5-lug while utilizing the bigger wheel bearing for the J-series bigger CV shaft diameter.

Also I was thinking I might get Explict Speed Performanes front traction bar. It should stiffen the chasis to handle the J's power better and would be easyer to weld custom brakets on it seeing as how it is a solid square bar rathere than the stock accords wavy bar.

Since I blew my F, I am already starting on this project. Im hoping to have the 5-lug swap done, manual conversion, and having the whole car prepped and ready for the J. So that when I have the J all I have to do is worry about the mounts and wiring the motor up. Along with the tach, and the immobilizer which I should clear up soon.

[lokuputha]

SuperTuner12010, your enthusiasm inspires me.

[Tnwagn]

Please just go to Majestic Honda and look at their parts and part numbers. SEARCH!!!!

They aren't the same (different look and part numbers)

95-98


99-04


05-08

[owequitit]

For the 5-lug swap, I know people have used the 95-98 Honda Odyssey front knuckles, calipers, hubs, bearing, rotors. But my question is, for those who may now.

Are the 99-2004 Odyssey knuckels the same? I know the bearings are different because they had the J35. Im wanting to know if the knuckles are the same.

Hopefully in a few weeks im going to the junkyard to get the prelude rear hubs and that to do the rear 5-lug and find out what parts im going to need to do the front 5-lug while utilizing the bigger wheel bearing for the J-series bigger CV shaft diameter.

Also I was thinking I might get Explict Speed Performanes front traction bar. It should stiffen the chasis to handle the J's power better and would be easyer to weld custom brakets on it seeing as how it is a solid square bar rathere than the stock accords wavy bar.

Since I blew my F, I am already starting on this project. Im hoping to have the 5-lug swap done, manual conversion, and having the whole car prepped and ready for the J. So that when I have the J all I have to do is worry about the mounts and wiring the motor up. Along with the tach, and the immobilizer which I should clear up soon.

Do it again, and have a vacation.

Stop posting comments in this thread that have nothing to do with it. What knuckles are related to the 5 lug swap, and what Odysseys were identical is NOT what this thread is about.

[SuperTuner12010]

Do it again, and have a vacation.

Stop posting comments in this thread that have nothing to do with it. What knuckles are related to the 5 lug swap, and what Odysseys were identical is NOT what this thread is about.

How is that not part of this thread. The J swap WILL require different knuckles and cv shafts or just shafts. Depending on how you want to do it. The 5 lug is the whole part about it, no wheel bearings will bolt up to the Cb7's knuckles. So one will be required to use different knuckles, and all the knuckles used with the J series are 5-lug...

So discussing which knuckes to use will put everyone one step forward on were this swap is going. I guarantee you I am doing this swap.