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    f22ax vs f22b

    i have f22B2 bottom end with a6 head and mani
    removed butterflies in mani
    9lb clutch masters flywheel
    centerforce clutch
    delta 272 with 430 lift on both sides
    ported the top intake plenum
    B&M fuel pressure regulator
    cold air intake
    pacesetter header
    2.5 inch custom piping ran to obx greddy evo with 2.5 vibrant high flow cat

    i currently have the head off getting port polish and unshrodding the vavles with 3 angle vavle job

    before i did this my car was very quick i used 2 beat up on b16's and gsr's would walk me

    i think that my setup versus anyone with f22b my setup would own i think when i get my car back running i will be getting ls teggi ecu and uber chipping it and see what gains i can get the only thing i haven't messed with is the throttle body and that will be changed very soon i wan't all 2 comment on what u think on this

    i was gonna do the t25 dsm setup but gonna put it on hold for now need 2 get a better clutch b/c i have a stage 1 centerforce and i don't think that it would hold know the way that i drive every know and then i need a front mount intercooler and chipped ecu and gonna take it 2 muffler shop or get universal piping kit

    H23vtec
    Kee Built/Tuned

    87x95 11.7 compression, custom h22 intake, minor head port polished, 70mm tb, 3inch cold air/3inch vstack, stock cams,ebay header with 3inch collector,3inch exhaust.

    9.0's at 81mph in the 1/8th mile ohh how i miss my baby.

    #2
    my setup vs the dohc non vtec i would make more power better 1/4 mile times i wanna compete with those how do have the f22b 2 see if there really is need 2 do the swap or 2 do sohc

    H23vtec
    Kee Built/Tuned

    87x95 11.7 compression, custom h22 intake, minor head port polished, 70mm tb, 3inch cold air/3inch vstack, stock cams,ebay header with 3inch collector,3inch exhaust.

    9.0's at 81mph in the 1/8th mile ohh how i miss my baby.

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      #3
      Originally posted by ssaccord92
      my setup vs the dohc non vtec i would make more power better 1/4 mile times i wanna compete with those how do have the f22b 2 see if there really is need 2 do the swap or 2 do sohc
      Is it just me...or is anyone else feeling a cocky attitude comming from his posts?

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        #4
        nah i really didn't wanna seem cocky but i read the f22ax and f22b head or f22b swap all i wanna know is is there a big difference is the swap worth it

        b/c i really think i f22ax has more potential than that motor period don't really mean 2 sound cocky at all if so i'm sorry

        H23vtec
        Kee Built/Tuned

        87x95 11.7 compression, custom h22 intake, minor head port polished, 70mm tb, 3inch cold air/3inch vstack, stock cams,ebay header with 3inch collector,3inch exhaust.

        9.0's at 81mph in the 1/8th mile ohh how i miss my baby.

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          #5
          i think they have the same potential.

          most people who do the swap dont do it because it has more horsepower, but is a plus!

          they do it because they dont want to spend another 600 on a highmileage f22axxxx

          you will always be able to tune DOHC better then sohc period.

          potential verus what? they have the same part availability, which isnt much. the potential is there for both motors. it just gets expensive

          And let me tell you from some one who has experienced all of the motors

          f22a1/4/6 aint got shit on the f22b dohc stock, h22a which i own now is better then those two. im happiest with my h22a
          H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

          190.3whp 155 wtq - with bolt ons, and a dc header

          ET=14.457 @ 94mph w/ 2.173 60Fter

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            #6
            A Dohc motor will always have an advantage over an sohc. The F22B DOHC has better flow rates stock and more aggressive cam profiles. Is also allows for added tunability via individual cam timing

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              #7
              My humble opinion is that after getting a chipped ECU wideband tuned with your setup you'll definitely have an edge on a bolt on F22B DOHC...

              bump compression up to 11:1 and retune and you'll give H22 Accord's a run for their money...

              long live the SOHC...






              Anyone wanna take bets on a new resurgence of SOHC humping after the bisi writeup in SCC?
              RIP Lifsatrip7

              ...

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                #8
                Originally posted by FushigiRES
                A Dohc motor will always have an advantage over an sohc. The F22B DOHC has better flow rates stock and more aggressive cam profiles. Is also allows for added tunability via individual cam timing

                That's a moot point after porting and an aftermarket cam...


                The combustion chambers are the same size on both F22B/H23 and F22Ax heads...
                RIP Lifsatrip7

                ...

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                  #9
                  who can afford that kind of shit tho? im definatly not that hard core right now.
                  H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

                  190.3whp 155 wtq - with bolt ons, and a dc header

                  ET=14.457 @ 94mph w/ 2.173 60Fter

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ZigenBallZ
                    That's a moot point after porting and an aftermarket cam...


                    The combustion chambers are the same size on both F22B/H23 and F22Ax heads...
                    ok....do everything to the F22B that you would to the F22AX..the DOHC would still be superior (individual cam timing)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by FushigiRES
                      ok....do everything to the F22B that you would to the F22AX..the DOHC would still be superior (individual cam timing)

                      eh... not if you put some time into getting the valve overlap just right on the SOHC cam...
                      RIP Lifsatrip7

                      ...

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ZigenBallZ
                        eh... not if you put some time into getting the valve overlap just right...
                        You seem to be an avid supporter of SOHC motors....why do you have a F20 DOHC in your car? (I hope I don't sound like an ass..I was jsut wondering)
                        Last edited by NoSloCB7; 05-28-2005, 12:42 PM.

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                          #13
                          ^^^yeah my sohc vtec does "ok" and i'm gonna stick with it mainly cuz i'm broke! plus bisi might give us new hope on potential
                          CiRcuS kiNgZ

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by FushigiRES
                            You seem to be an avid supporter of SOHC motors....why do you have a F20 DOHC in your car? (I hope I don't sound like an ass..I was jsut wondering)

                            lol... you did sound like an ass... but np....the explanation is I like both... they both have their good points... and I mess with both... and the more I've done with them I've really come to see that the SOHC head is very workable in terms of potential...

                            although honestly I wouldn't have gone DOHC if it wasn't for the 88mm stroke of the f20a...

                            I am still tinkering with SOHC stuff quite a bit... even some schtuff way outside the norm of what has been done so far...

                            I don't see the F22Ax head as a liability... the b1 and b2 heads yes but other than the fixed valve overlap and it desperately needing some "adjustments" from how the factory made it... it has solid potential... you have to make sacrifices though due to it being Non VTEC but that is life... IMO it definitely takes more skill, intelligence and patience to make good power but the power is there to be had with the right combination...


                            and hell... even VTEC has it's good points too... blech...
                            Last edited by ZigenBallZ; 05-28-2005, 12:56 PM.
                            RIP Lifsatrip7

                            ...

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                              #15
                              and I apologize if I come off like a dick about it...

                              It's just that this whole SOHC vs DOHC and F22 Vs whatever arguement is an old one...

                              it basically boils down to how dedeicated someone is to making something work... whatever it may be...

                              The SOHC naysayers are quite abundant and really seem to beat down the ideas of people with SOHC build plans and brainwash them into becoming H22 zombies...
                              RIP Lifsatrip7

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