YES!! the F22B DOHC Head will fit on the F22AX Block..PERFECTLY!!

[HondaFan81]

Originally posted by deevergote
Extrude Honed H23 manifold =

bleh....sure if ur paying... cock,beer?

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by phatdoughnut
Yeah why the heck would it Choke the motor with a p14?

Who said that?

I don't think I said anything about the P14... because I have no real firsthand experience with it... So I guess it wasn't me...

EDIT: I reread and found the choke comment... With out the KS it would choke... but with it installed somewhere in a ghettofied manner it shouldn't hinder performance that much if at all... H22 guys don't seem to have too many problems with knock... Well NA H22 guys anyways...


But just from a theoretical standpoint... The H23A1 is geared more towards low-mid range tq than hp... So, In theory it wouldn't be the optimal setup either... but I would guess it's a hell of alot better than a PT3 or PT6...

P39's aren't that hard to find... well, semi hard to find for a good price... but they pop up every now and then from private sellers and many importers have a spare or 2 every now and then...just have to keep up on calling around...

You want a hard to find ECU? try finding a PT2 for less than $150-200+ in a 6 month timeframe...

[phatdoughnut]

yeah like zigen said, auto p39s will pop up all the time, but ive yet to see a 5sp one..

[NoSloCB7]

Hey, Either Zigen or Phat....what is your redline with the F22B'S?

[WiKKeDV16]

correction


phatty has f22b

zigen has f20a

both dohc..


zigen i believe isnt pushing past 7k.. cause he doesnt want you


Phatty has pushed his to 7,600rpm.. just because but in videos ive seen him shift at 6,800-7,000rpm

[phatdoughnut]

i havent gone that far carlos , ive gone to 7200

[WiKKeDV16]

u lie!!! lol.. my bad.. i knew it was pretty high thou

[souldoubt]

Originally posted by phatdoughnut
Yeah why the heck would it Choke the motor with a p14?

ya ya ya ya ya RESEARCH!

well,i didn't get the oe ecu. i had it from my original swap (h23)
it seems to work pretty good. and hell of alot better than the stock lx ecu.

*edit* nevermind should've read farther along......

[SoySauceCb7]

the A6 H23 runner hybrid will be optimul in my situation, for response ect. untill i get my itbs ofcourse. In the future i will do a extrude hone!

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by WiKKeDV16

zigen has f20a

both dohc..


zigen i believe isnt pushing past 7k.. cause he doesnt want you

I hit 7600 about 2 weeks ago on a misshift...

I didn't think I got over 7400 but there it was plain as day on the Apexi screen...76xx rpms...

I'm still trying to find that sweet spot... 7k is decent but 7200 is better... I'm not going to go much over that till I rebuild...

[souldoubt]

how does the f20 respond to the apexi? did you use a real dyno or ass dyno/ research the best settings for it? i've been thinking of an safc for the f22b but don't want to mess anything up.

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by cb9h23
how does the f20 respond to the apexi? did you use a real dyno or ass dyno/ research the best settings for it? i've been thinking of an safc for the f22b but don't want to mess anything up.

It responds pretty well...I like it...

I had a 1st Gen SAFC in there for about 2 days and didn't really dig the knobs all that much... and on the 3rd day a friend told me he was selling his fairly new SAFCII for $125 so I bought it...

I kind of had a leg up from jumping into tuning it blindly though from all the work I did with the chipped P06/P28 way back when...

So I knew what I was doing... well more than most...and I'm under the supreme delusion that my ass dyno is fairly (read: somewhat?) accurate...

I didn't make all that many adjustments... just played around with a few key areas and it seemed to idle better and pull alot better in the mid-upper rpm range...

So No, no real tuning per se... There's no dyno around here that's decent or run properly by intelligent people and the few that are are overpriced and you are not allowed to have any part or say in the tuning process...which wouldn't be Sooo bad if they knew what they were doing...

But yeah... It's a good tuning tool...

I'm tempted to retract my statement about it being a band-aid tuning device but there are better tools out there IMO... still decent though if you can get it for $150 or under...

[deevergote]

The SAFC has always struck me as a band-aid device... Not that I don't believe that it's good, but it seems pretty limited for the money. And dangerous, since it's "easy to use"...

My idea for a cheap (cheaper) engine management soulution would be a chipped ECU (P28 in my case) with a romulator. I should probably make a whole new thread to discuss this, rather than whore up this one... Still, it seems like a decent setup to me! All I would need to do is borrow a laptop, or (ultimately) build my in-car computer system. Plug the romulator in, and run uberdata for real-time tuning.

[ZigenBallZ]

Originally posted by deevergote
The SAFC has always struck me as a band-aid device... Not that I don't believe that it's good, but it seems pretty limited for the money. And dangerous, since it's "easy to use"...

My idea for a cheap (cheaper) engine management soulution would be a chipped ECU (P28 in my case) with a romulator. I should probably make a whole new thread to discuss this, rather than whore up this one... Still, it seems like a decent setup to me! All I would need to do is borrow a laptop, or (ultimately) build my in-car computer system. Plug the romulator in, and run uberdata for real-time tuning.

I wholeheartedly agree...

and the chipped ECU, and freeware ROM tuning programs is what I was alluding to in my previous post...

but in all honesty... I was a bit surprised by some of the features of the SAFC... which made me rethink my negativity towards it SOMEWHAT... There are btter options out there but if you get an awesome deal on it then it is a decent tool...but for the average market price of $225 I wouldn't have even thought twice about it...

[NoSloCB7]

Naw man, keeo that discussion here..it relates to this topic..