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    Rim question???

    So I'm Loking for rims with a sick lip that will fit my 91 cb7 lx, will these fit :
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/140668367909...r#ht_657wt_922

    If not any suggestions on where or what wheels I could go with that have a sweet lip?

    Thanks in advance

    #2
    9" wide is VERY wide. I ran 7.5" and rubbed the inner fender lining on tight turns.
    The +35 offset is a little low, but not terribly so. If the width fits, the offset should be alright. You MAY have to roll your fenders (do it right and be careful to treat and paint the area to avoid rust), and possibly run some negative camber (be sure to have an alignment shop do it correctly, and be aware of inner tire wear... once the insides are gone, the tires are shot, regardless of the tread elsewhere.)

    I'm still not a fan of this stupid XXR trend... but it doesn't seem to be dying just yet.






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      #3
      Originally posted by deevergote View Post
      9" wide is VERY wide. I ran 7.5" and rubbed the inner fender lining on tight turns.
      The +35 offset is a little low, but not terribly so. If the width fits, the offset should be alright. You MAY have to roll your fenders (do it right and be careful to treat and paint the area to avoid rust), and possibly run some negative camber (be sure to have an alignment shop do it correctly, and be aware of inner tire wear... once the insides are gone, the tires are shot, regardless of the tread elsewhere.)

      I'm still not a fan of this stupid XXR trend... but it doesn't seem to be dying just yet.
      So you think its to wide hmmm is there anything I could do so it won't rub on the inner fender lining, but it will fit then?
      Will they also fit the back?
      What dose rolling the fender mean?
      Why don't you like xxr, what's the draw back?

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        #4
        I don't know for sure if 9" wide will clear everything underneath. Someone that has actually tried it will have to chime in to give any definite info.

        Rolling the fender means rolling the inner lip to give the wheel more clearance.

        XXR is really just a cheaply made "budget" brand that was smart enough to start making low offset wheels with deep lips. Kids that want to follow the trend eat them up. We get at least 2 threads asking if various XXR wheels will fit their car on this forum every week. Most of them are asking about the 0 offset wheels... so it's actually refreshing to see someone asking about a more reasonable offset, at least.






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          #5
          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
          I don't know for sure if 9" wide will clear everything underneath. Someone that has actually tried it will have to chime in to give any definite info.

          Rolling the fender means rolling the inner lip to give the wheel more clearance.

          XXR is really just a cheaply made "budget" brand that was smart enough to start making low offset wheels with deep lips. Kids that want to follow the trend eat them up. We get at least 2 threads asking if various XXR wheels will fit their car on this forum every week. Most of them are asking about the 0 offset wheels... so it's actually refreshing to see someone asking about a more reasonable offset, at least.
          hehe this is pretty true (even though im one of those fanbois with +0 wheels), you should have no problem fitting them as far as fender fitment. shouldnt take any thing other than maybe a simple fender roll. backspacing is where you may or may not run into problems, clearaning suspension arms.

          outside fitment will be similar to a x8 +20-25, but with an extra inch of backspacing to deal with.

          doing some math based on factory ex wheels which are 15x5.5 +50

          15x5.5 / 2 = 2.75" backspacing at 0 offset + 50mm (2in) = ~4.75" backspacing on factory ex wheels.

          17x9 / 2 = 4.5" backspacing at 0 offset + 35mm (~1.375") = ~5.875" backspacing on the wheels your considering buying.

          if you have factory ex wheels you can get under your car and try to take some measurements to get a good estimation. note that this doesnt take into account tire sizes. if youre really pushing it but think they'll fit, you will almost HAVE to run a 225 or 215 tire on the 9" which is considered stretching (even though a 225 is extremely mild on a 9, it is stretching)

          hope that kinda makes sense, and isnt complete greek.

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            #6
            Originally posted by deevergote View Post
            I don't know for sure if 9" wide will clear everything underneath. Someone that has actually tried it will have to chime in to give any definite info.

            Rolling the fender means rolling the inner lip to give the wheel more clearance.

            XXR is really just a cheaply made "budget" brand that was smart enough to start making low offset wheels with deep lips. Kids that want to follow the trend eat them up. We get at least 2 threads asking if various XXR wheels will fit their car on this forum every week. Most of them are asking about the 0 offset wheels... so it's actually refreshing to see someone asking about a more reasonable offset, at least.
            Ok, thanks for the info, much appreciated

            It's hard to find any rims that look good with a lip that fit our cars at least from my search so far.

            So what brad would u recommend that has a decent lip on it, that fits my cb?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Hopeless View Post
              hehe this is pretty true (even though im one of those fanbois with +0 wheels), you should have no problem fitting them as far as fender fitment. shouldnt take any thing other than maybe a simple fender roll. backspacing is where you may or may not run into problems, clearaning suspension arms.

              outside fitment will be similar to a x8 +20-25, but with an extra inch of backspacing to deal with.

              doing some math based on factory ex wheels which are 15x5.5 +50

              15x5.5 / 2 = 2.75" backspacing at 0 offset + 50mm (2in) = ~4.75" backspacing on factory ex wheels.

              17x9 / 2 = 4.5" backspacing at 0 offset + 35mm (~1.375") = ~5.875" backspacing on the wheels your considering buying.

              if you have factory ex wheels you can get under your car and try to take some measurements to get a good estimation. note that this doesnt take into account tire sizes. if youre really pushing it but think they'll fit, you will almost HAVE to run a 225 or 215 tire on the 9" which is considered stretching (even though a 225 is extremely mild on a 9, it is stretching)

              hope that kinda makes sense, and isnt complete greek.
              Yes sir very much so, I saw your set up and was definitely inspired, looks sick.
              How dose your setup work out for you, as far as clearance, performance, and ride?

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                #8
                Originally posted by blowme123 View Post
                Yes sir very much so, I saw your set up and was definitely inspired, looks sick.
                How dose your setup work out for you, as far as clearance, performance, and ride?
                my setup rides fine now that its sorted, there was a lot of trial and error involved in my setup, took 3 different sets of tire sizes to finally get something that worked, and my camber turned out a bit excessive.

                i dont drive fast in my car its mainly a daily ,but clearance has been worked out with the way i have it set up between a fender pull, spc camber arms in the back, my wheel specs and tire size. my ride is great with the coilovers i use.

                i do see heavy rear tire wear though because of the amount of camber i run. but its something i was expecting, and the tire size i got set up for have some very good options at low prices.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hopeless View Post
                  my setup rides fine now that its sorted, there was a lot of trial and error involved in my setup, took 3 different sets of tire sizes to finally get something that worked, and my camber turned out a bit excessive.

                  i dont drive fast in my car its mainly a daily ,but clearance has been worked out with the way i have it set up between a fender pull, spc camber arms in the back, my wheel specs and tire size. my ride is great with the coilovers i use.

                  i do see heavy rear tire wear though because of the amount of camber i run. but its something i was expecting, and the tire size i got set up for have some very good options at low prices.
                  Nice, thanks bro
                  Also looking at these what do u think?
                  http://www.hondawerkz.com/products/D...ilver-Rim.html

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hopeless View Post
                    i do see heavy rear tire wear though because of the amount of camber i run. but its something i was expecting, and the tire size i got set up for have some very good options at low prices.
                    That is key, right there. Heavy tire wear WILL occur with extreme negative camber, but if you're aware of it, and careful not to drive on bald tires, then it's not a big deal... as long as you aren't pushing the car beyond safe limits (your primary contact patch is the side of the tire, not the center where it belongs... so the tire won't be as effective, even when in perfect condition.)


                    As for Drag wheels, they're another cheapo knockoff wheel. Not of the highest quality. At least they're not as trendy.

                    This is my opinion. As long as you aren't stupid in the way you install the wheels and tires, and in the way you drive your car, any wheels will be fine. I just don't care for these trends, and how everyone is getting excited over the XXR wheels in particular, thinking they're hot shit. They're nothing more than cheaply made cast wheels that you can get for budget prices... well, now it seems the prices have gone up because the trend followers will pay them.






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                      #11
                      Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                      That is key, right there. Heavy tire wear WILL occur with extreme negative camber, but if you're aware of it, and careful not to drive on bald tires, then it's not a big deal... as long as you aren't pushing the car beyond safe limits (your primary contact patch is the side of the tire, not the center where it belongs... so the tire won't be as effective, even when in perfect condition.)


                      As for Drag wheels, they're another cheapo knockoff wheel. Not of the highest quality. At least they're not as trendy.

                      This is my opinion. As long as you aren't stupid in the way you install the wheels and tires, and in the way you drive your car, any wheels will be fine. I just don't care for these trends, and how everyone is getting excited over the XXR wheels in particular, thinking they're hot shit. They're nothing more than cheaply made cast wheels that you can get for budget prices... well, now it seems the prices have gone up because the trend followers will pay them.
                      Yeah I feel you, but I can't find any rims that fit the cb's that have a decent lip or look good at least to me.

                      If any one can shed light on good quality rims with lips that look good please chime in, I'm just about to put on my suspension setup
                      (Koni yellows/ H&R springs , tas front camber kit, Ingalls rear camber kit, f&f rear Lca's , energy suspension kit, complete rear prothane kit) so I just wanna do this right off top so I don't mess up.

                      I don't plan on slamming the car I like a lil gap, if that helps in any way. Thanks as always deev on your advice always appreciated.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                        That is key, right there. Heavy tire wear WILL occur with extreme negative camber, but if you're aware of it, and careful not to drive on bald tires, then it's not a big deal... as long as you aren't pushing the car beyond safe limits (your primary contact patch is the side of the tire, not the center where it belongs... so the tire won't be as effective, even when in perfect condition.)


                        As for Drag wheels, they're another cheapo knockoff wheel. Not of the highest quality. At least they're not as trendy.

                        This is my opinion. As long as you aren't stupid in the way you install the wheels and tires, and in the way you drive your car, any wheels will be fine. I just don't care for these trends, and how everyone is getting excited over the XXR wheels in particular, thinking they're hot shit. They're nothing more than cheaply made cast wheels that you can get for budget prices... well, now it seems the prices have gone up because the trend followers will pay them.
                        Yeah I feel you, but I can't find any rims that fit the cb's that have a decent lip or look good at least to me. I'd like to adjust my camber so I don't have to worry about wearing out the tires to fast.

                        If any one can shed light on good quality rims with lips that look good please chime in, I'm just about to put on my suspension setup
                        (Koni yellows/ H&R springs , tas front camber kit, Ingalls rear camber kit, f&f rear Lca's , energy suspension kit, complete rear prothane kit) so I just wanna do this right off top so I don't mess up.

                        I don't plan on slamming the car I like a lil gap, if that helps in any way. Thanks as always deev on your advice always appreciated.

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                          #13
                          If you want nice rims then your gona have to fork out twice of what you would spend on some xxrs rotas, drags...nice wheels are pricey but well worth it in my opinion. If you want some nice wheels look at these brands there a bit pricey but nice work,volk racing, Bbs,racing hart,ccw
                          MRT http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=175158

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                            #14
                            With a really wide wheel, or a low offset wheel, you're probably going to need to run negative camber for clearance. Since our cars run a high offset naturally, there's really not much room for a lip.






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                              #15
                              Originally posted by remix405 View Post
                              If you want nice rims then your gona have to fork out twice of what you would spend on some xxrs rotas, drags...nice wheels are pricey but well worth it in my opinion. If you want some nice wheels look at these brands there a bit pricey but nice work,volk racing, Bbs,racing hart,ccw
                              Thanks bro gonna take a look now and see what I can find

                              With a really wide wheel, or a low offset wheel, you're probably going to need to run negative camber for clearance. Since our cars run a high offset naturally, there's really not much room for a lip.
                              Hmmm I see, well Ill keep looking and doing some research before making any buys
                              Last edited by blowme123; 02-25-2012, 11:42 PM.

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