How Bad Is This Camber & Toe ????

[Noxidea]

Ok dropped my ride and did some work but cant seem to figure out good or bad , just not in tune to what specs should be as apposed to what i have

here goes , anyone who knows whats wrong with these specs let me know also let me know how bad tire wear should be with these settings ?? thanks


Front Left .......................Front Right
-1.7* Camber -2.0* Camber
-0.02* Toe 0.04* Toe
Total Toe .03*

Rear Left ........................Rear Right
-1.6 Camber -1.5* Camber
.54* Toe .17* Toe
Total Toe .19*

Ok keep in mind i havent installed my rear Camber Washers yet , But please let me know , if anyone knows how BAD is this in front ??

If you dont know PLEASE DONT GUESS , Asking people That Know these things , thanks

-Sean- Noxidea

[Noxidea]

BUMPITY BUMP BUMP ANYONE ???????? lol

[rickyduckworth]

Ok dropped my ride and did some work but cant seem to figure out good or bad , just not in tune to what specs should be as apposed to what i have

here goes , anyone who knows whats wrong with these specs let me know also let me know how bad tire wear should be with these settings ?? thanks


Front Left .......................Front Right
-1.7* Camber -2.0* Camber
-0.02* Toe 0.04* Toe
Total Toe .03*

Rear Left ........................Rear Right
-1.6 Camber -1.5* Camber
.54* Toe .17* Toe
Total Toe .19*

Ok keep in mind i havent installed my rear Camber Washers yet , But please let me know , if anyone knows how BAD is this in front ??

If you dont know PLEASE DONT GUESS , Asking people That Know these things , thanks

-Sean- Noxidea

too much negative camber, i'd get moog's adjustable upper ball joints from rockauto.com ($70 or so) and they should allow you enough room to fix the camber......the front toe is ok.......the rear camber is too negative too, rear toe isn't that great either.......

what do YOU prefer, great handling with below average tire wear, good handling and tire wear, or do you ONLY care about tire wear and stock handling would be fine?

here is what i'd recommend (remember, when you drive your car and no one else is in it, your camber will go about -.2 degrees on the driver, +.1 to .2 on the passenger side due to you making the front/driver side squat a bit, this is for the average sized person 150-200lbs):

all handling:

FRONT
camber, close to -.7 driver, -1.0 passenger
toe, equal side to side with a total of +.15-.25

REAR
camber, close to -.9 driver, -.9 passenger
toe, equal side to side with a total of around zero or +.1

good combo of handling/tire wear

FRONT
camber, close to -.5 driver, -.7 passenger
toe, equal with a total of around zero or +.1

REAR
camber, close to -.65 driver, -.65 passenger
toe, equal with around zero toe

great tire wear, stock handling

FRONT
camber, about zero both sides, maybe -.1 driver, 0 passenger
toe, about zero

REAR
camber, about -.2 both sides
toe, about +.1

[19accord92]

he already has a camber kit, nox, i'd suggest you have the alignment shop do it for you, they will do their best to put it in best alignment, im not sure if your control arm will bang up against the fender though...

[Noxidea]

This may sound funny but I may use 2 different camber kits , one is in already but the results were as above cause when i did it on the more extreme setting it hit in he fender well sooo im gonna use a ball joint style one now to correct the rest of it , The reason i think this is ok to do is that my kit now is non adjustable they just give u 2 settings and one that they say is for my drop ammount hits in the fender well ive heard of many people just grinding and stuff but i dont want to do all that i want to be able to adjust em anyways so i think ball joint style is my best bet , considering i need ball joints anyways SOON , when I installed the springs I noticed the ball joint boots were starting to deteriate sooo , well anyways guess im off to buy some ball joints Thanks guyz anymore feedback is welcomed , L8ta

-Sean- Noxidea

[rickyduckworth]

he already has a camber kit, nox, i'd suggest you have the alignment shop do it for you, they will do their best to put it in best alignment, im not sure if your control arm will bang up against the fender though...

you have no clue how bad alignment guys usually are.......they're so reliant on computers and illiterate when it comes to reading the actual printouts other than if it's good or bad that there should be some legislation ensuring they know what they should actually know.......my dad talked to a guy the other day (i'd put his alignment knowledge against anyone on earth, the guy has been complimented by an f1 driver among others) and the guy literally made up a new "angle"......it's a reading that simply didn't exist and my dad just laughed and walked away........i knew a lot before i attended that week-long alignment school, still picked up a few things, but what the other "pros" didn't know was shocking.......if you can't ask a lot of good questions, there is simply no way to tell whether you're getting an alignment or not.....they're bad to NOT check for loose parts too........with a loose front end part, you can't get an actual alignment, because the settings change each time it shifts

i've experienced this with big10 tires and firestone and received a refund both times......with a bad ball joint, big 10 tires aligned it and gave it their seal of approval.....the specs weren't close to ideal, and completely out of the "good" range......

[Noxidea]

Fizz on the last one that u listed saying stock handling , that doesnt mean it wont handle better than stock considering im 2.5" drop ??? Meaning it will handle better than stock since im lowered but not as extreme handling like a track car or it will handle stock even though im dropped so low ??? Just a bit confused , cause i want better than stock handling but even with it all at Zero i would think u would get better handling somewhat just because im dropped alot and going with 17's ????? Please Inform Thanks Again Fizz

-Sean- Noxidea

[19accord92]

you have no clue how bad alignment guys usually are.......they're so reliant on computers and illiterate when it comes to reading the actual printouts other than if it's good or bad that there should be some legislation ensuring they know what they should actually know.......my dad talked to a guy the other day (i'd put his alignment knowledge against anyone on earth, the guy has been complimented by an f1 driver among others) and the guy literally made up a new "angle"......it's a reading that simply didn't exist and my dad just laughed and walked away........i knew a lot before i attended that week-long alignment school, still picked up a few things, but what the other "pros" didn't know was shocking.......if you can't ask a lot of good questions, there is simply no way to tell whether you're getting an alignment or not.....they're bad to NOT check for loose parts too........with a loose front end part, you can't get an actual alignment, because the settings change each time it shifts

i've experienced this with big10 tires and firestone and received a refund both times......with a bad ball joint, big 10 tires aligned it and gave it their seal of approval.....the specs weren't close to ideal, and completely out of the "good" range......

the alignment people at my local area is good though. havnet really experienced wear, however the bang for the fender is still there, but im not sure if its because of my worn out camber kit, or because the alignment was just bad. i dont know.