KYB AGX's vs. Koni Yellows

[Sthrnba711]

I have been riding on my KYB's for about a year now and love them, but have been looking at the Koni's lately mainly for the height adjustability. I have neuspeed race springs and the front is about a finger or so higher then the rear and looking at trying to fix this. Didnt know if the Koni's would be the way to go and how they ride.

[H23Accord]

The Konis will help alleviate the height difference problem as well as give you a much better ride. Everyone that has the Neuspeed Koni setup loves it. You reside close to me so if you are interested, I can give you a ride in my car before you make your decision. You might also want to read my reivew I recently put up on the Neuspeed Race springs with the Neuspeed Konis as it is pretty detailed as far as ride quality.

[Sthrnba711]

I love the ride of my setup, I just was wondering what the difference would be in switching. I know the Koni's are height adjustable which makes me want to switch cause the wheel gap is kiiling me. It makes my car look like the rear is lower then the front.

[H23Accord]

There is more to it then just that. Though your ride is good now, it will be improved upon with the Konis. All aspects of your suspension will be improved from a better set of shocks. It is amazing what an upgraded set of shocks can do. Not to say the AGX are bad by any means because they are one of my pics for best shocks to buy. But the Konis are definately better. If you get a set, make sure you get the Neuspeed Koni version and not just the Koni yellows. You have more height adjustments with the Neuspeed Konis plus they were made for the Neuspeed race spring and is actually considered a matching spring/shock combo. This is what comes in the Neuspeed Cup Kit.

[HondaFan81]

There is more to it then just that. Though your ride is good now, it will be improved upon with the Konis. All aspects of your suspension will be improved from a better set of shocks. It is amazing what an upgraded set of shocks can do. Not to say the AGX are bad by any means because they are one of my pics for best shocks to buy. But the Konis are definately better. If you get a set, make sure you get the Neuspeed Koni version and not just the Koni yellows. You have more height adjustments with the Neuspeed Konis plus they were made for the Neuspeed race spring and is actually considered a matching spring/shock combo. This is what comes in the Neuspeed Cup Kit.

I 2nd the Neuspeed race springs and yellow Koni combo..I have the same setup. I am very happy with them as well.

[azian21485]

There is more to it then just that. Though your ride is good now, it will be improved upon with the Konis. All aspects of your suspension will be improved from a better set of shocks. It is amazing what an upgraded set of shocks can do. Not to say the AGX are bad by any means because they are one of my pics for best shocks to buy. But the Konis are definately better. If you get a set, make sure you get the Neuspeed Koni version and not just the Koni yellows. You have more height adjustments with the Neuspeed Konis plus they were made for the Neuspeed race spring and is actually considered a matching spring/shock combo. This is what comes in the Neuspeed Cup Kit.

neuspeed koni yellows and "regular" koni yellows use the same valving so you can say they are "matched" as well...there is very little difference between the two shocks

[H23Accord]

neuspeed koni yellows and "regular" koni yellows use the same valving so you can say they are "matched" as well...there is very little difference between the two shocks

True. I should have been more precise in my wording. His main focus with this thread was the height adjustment though which is why I primarily mentioned the Neuspeed Konis since they have more height adjustments than the standard yellows. Both shocks otherwise are the same.

[prodigymb]

never had yellows but two things i can say about my agx's

1. handle nice, ride quality is very good not bumpy
2. not nearly low enough (i got neuspeed race springs)

[Sthrnba711]

How do the Koni's work with the control arm problem our cars seem to have. I rode with cheap coilovers (sleeve and spring) for about 3 days and kept banging my control arm (upper). Does the different height adjustablilty help this problem or will it still happen if you go low? (I have neuspeed race springs to thats how low)

[fliplyricist1]

yep, definitely listen to these guys

I had illuminas paired with my neuspeed races for about a year before I took the plunge and went with the yellows.

they did exactly what I wanted them to do and eliminated the 2 finger gap all around and now it sits at about a half finger gap all around on the lowest perch.

and there is no comparing the ride quality. you have to take into consideration that the yellows were pretty much designed for the neuspeed races, and have higher dampening/rebound rates that are matched for the higher spring rates of the yellows.

agx's are decent shocks but they just were not designed for the race drop. same with my illuminas. i used to ride with my illuminas on the 3 setting (5 being stiffest) and the ride was always very harsh on rough roads but very bouncy and floaty on highway dips

man what a difference with the yellows. they seriously ride like stock on the highway and have absolutely no bounce (I have mine set to 1/4 stiff all around)...it's seriously incredible how well these ride considering the drop is nearly 3 inches all around now. When i slam my car door the car does not wobble from side to side like with the illuminas, these yellows keep the thing solid. i'm sure the ride can get stiff as rails if i dialed them up to even 1/2 way, but im happy with the near stock ride on open roads, and it's plenty stiff when it needs to be

plus they have the lifetime warranty and are warranted for any drop. the agx's, on the other hand, are only warranted for i believe a 1.5 inch drop and higher (or somewhere around there)
you won't regret them, they're worth every penny.

[Sthrnba711]

i know i would love them but am i going to have a problem with slaming my control arms everytime i hit a bump. I have a progress technology camber kit and had shitty coilovers for a few days and had horrible problems with smashing my upper control arm on every little bump. will this not happen with the yellows?

[fliplyricist1]

i know i would love them but am i going to have a problem with slaming my control arms everytime i hit a bump. I have a progress technology camber kit and had shitty coilovers for a few days and had horrible problems with smashing my upper control arm on every little bump. will this not happen with the yellows?

oh, well I don't have a camber kit (don't trust 'em) but I understand your concern. Really with front camber kits you're pretty much gonna knock at any drop 1.5 inches and lower, most people just either let the control arms knock out their own little groove so they don't knock anymore, or simply knock out a piece of the fenderwell themselves to eliminate it.

I mean, if you put the yellows on the highest perch with the yellows, you'll be at around a 1 and a half inch drop. And if you dial them in stiffer, you'll probably just knock when you go over some big bumps. But if you're really worried about the knocking, then you should just bang out that portion of the fenderwell or consider just going back to stock or with a tiny drop like pro-kits.

[H23Accord]

I have a camber kit and had no problem banging the control arms. I can tell you that not all the race springs sit the same. Mine actually sat higher than Flip's. Your height adjustments on the Konis will have a direct affect in combination with your springs since I see everyone sitting at different perches on their Konis and everyone sits at different heights when on the same perch. Mine sat 2 fingers in the front and 2 in the rear with heighest perch in the rear and lowest in the front. I sat lower with my sport springs. Either way, I didn't have any of the control arm issues and I have always had a camber kit. The ride is as stated above and is so smooth that even my grandmother asks me why my ride is so much smoother than her 96 v6 accord. If you haven't read my Neuspeed race spring review than you should since it goes into detail on the exact setup we are talking about. It will put your wondering to rest.

[Sthrnba711]

Looking at getting some Koni's soon but was wondering if it would hurt to just change the front first and then the rear later. I really dont have the money to fork over for a complete set but wondering if it would be okay to ride with the Koni's in the front and AGX's in the rear.