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    I guess this is what happens when a strut blows...

    So i had my car lowered on coilovers for like 2 days and i get this. Unfortianetly, i think i know why it happen. Me and my buddy took the rear springs off with ease, using our spring compressor. But, when we got to the front, whoooole nother story...

    It started out fine, tightening up each compressor to get the spring off, then the all-thread bolt the adjusters sit on began to bend inward and wouldnt tighted nore loosen, which was cuased by about 2" of the allthread being completely stripped with no remaining threads. So i used an impact gun to try and take the compressors off and start over, epic fail... While lossening up the left side, the nut came off the top, which is where all the pressure was sitting...

    So im holding the nut in my hand and me and my buddy are looking at eachother trying to figure out why this bending compressor hasnt fallen apart. About 10-15 seconds later, (after i had my BARE fingers on the end of the compressor attempting to put the nut back on the end of it), we look at eachother and where pretty much like OH FUCK! Littereally 2 seconds later the one compressor SHOOTS the nut and 2 washer FLYING across the shop and into the wall. Were both shitting our pants and wondering if eachother is ok, which we were... So, now that one compressor is completely fucked beyond recognition, the other compressor is sitting on it still holding what looks like a SHIT ton of pressure, so much so its bending the spring so much its puting pressure on the center of the strut...

    To make an even longer story short, we ended up leaving the one on the spring by itself over night (being saturday nothing was open). We come back in the morning with a NEW set of spring compressor from NAPA ($45.00), and think all is well, we were wrong. The NAPA compressor fucked up the threads and wouldnt come off, so where in the same position. We put the strut in a BIG 50 ton press and layed the strut down with a block of wood putting pressure on the whole unit, pinning it down so it dosnt go anywhere. We got the old compressors off but had no way to get the spring off now...

    We ended up heating the spring with an acetylene torch and letting it sag under its own weight along with some we added with the press. Unfortinately it didnt help much, i eneded up cutting both front springs off by puting them in a big vise and taking a grinder to it. Took cutting about 4 coils before there was no more pressure. What a LOOOONG painstaking, DANGEROUS 2 days...

    Getting back to the point, i think my strut was bent (the piston part that goes into the cylinder) because we left the one sprng compressor on one side over night and it put alot of pressure on that side... So now im stuck with a fucked up strut (as Leschwab says) and dont have the money to get the ones i really want (either KYB, Koni or Tokico adjustables...). And the worst part of all the broken front, drivers strut started to hit the underside of my hood, putting a very small dent in it. So i tool a metal hacksaw and cut off a good 1/2"-1" of the top of the strut, a few threads above the nut. Its gonna be a bitch to get my coilovers off my fucked up strut when i get new ones, but its gonna have to happen sooner or later....

    Thanks for listening to my LOOOOONG story, i mostly wanted to point out how dangerouse it is working with springs and all the pressure behind them, and to show you how fucked up my strut is.... You can actually see where the strut forced the metal coller up and split it down the middle...




    ALL DONE.


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    #2
    lol, that big ass washer is supposed to be on the bottom if im not mistaken...mine did that and we took them back apart and moved that washer down and it fixed it.

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      #3
      Originally posted by civic_90_08 View Post
      lol, that big ass washer is supposed to be on the bottom if im not mistaken...mine did that and we took them back apart and moved that washer down and it fixed it.

      -Jordan
      No, that washer belongs there. There is another that is supposed to go underneath.

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        #4
        Originally posted by 4U2H8ME View Post
        No, that washer belongs there. There is another that is supposed to go underneath.
        oh, well i knew there was suppose to be one under neith....

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          #5
          Originally posted by civic_90_08 View Post
          lol, that big ass washer is supposed to be on the bottom if im not mistaken...mine did that and we took them back apart and moved that washer down and it fixed it.

          -Jordan
          Thats kina what i thought, we took the small washers off (the ones you tap off with a hammer), because if we would have left them the strut wouldnat have been able to compact all the way, and woulda hit the washer. But even if i wanted 2 put it back on i nearly cant, i may consider trying it this weekend but its gonna b a bitch, i have 2 TRy 2 get the strut apart AND put it back together, if i cant im fucked for a while... No $$$.

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            #6
            Originally posted by 4U2H8ME View Post
            No, that washer belongs there. There is another that is supposed to go underneath.
            Fuck... Now what 2 do... I cut the allen head part off of the top so it wouldnt hit my hood. The bolt on top isnt that tight so mabey i can break it loose with an impact gun. I guess that washer it what holds the strut down... oops, can you tell this is my 1st time working with suspension???

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              #7
              If we had left the washer underneath, we wouldnt have been able to put the rubber hat on the top of it, under the metal hat. It hits and dosnt let enough of the threaded strut part poke out... ??

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                #8
                sorry to be a dick but..

                if you dont know what you are doing, leave it to the professionals..

                springs and press-es (sp?) are nothing to play with, you found out the hard way.

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                  #9
                  to get the nut off, take a pair of vice grips, and clamp them on the the strut, just below the rubber/washer above the spring. You will mess up your strut, it will put grooves in it and it will not seal properly, that is why you must place the vice grips as far up as you can, out of the range of motion. now, take off the nut.

                  you may even have enough room to get vice grips in there V

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cincy90h22 View Post
                    sorry to be a dick but..

                    if you dont know what you are doing, leave it to the professionals..

                    springs and press-es (sp?) are nothing to play with, you found out the hard way.
                    I wasnt going in blind if thats what your assuming... Its not my fault the spring compressors failed, and i do remember coming out of this un-injured and completed... The ONLY part i was having trouble with was how i should put on all the rubber bushings and washers (the cars lower so i couldnt leave it the way it was, it would have sat on the OEM bump stops before it even touched my springs). I'll admit, i fucked up, but who hasnt. I get the general concept of my suspension, even more now that i have done it, and will be doing it again at some point. Luckily my dads shop has every tool under the sun and i got them done. If youve looked at labor in shops these days, its rediculous. I have a shop to do my own work, if i never do it, i'll never learn...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cincy90h22 View Post
                      to get the nut off, take a pair of vice grips, and clamp them on the the strut, just below the rubber/washer above the spring. You will mess up your strut, it will put grooves in it and it will not seal properly, that is why you must place the vice grips as far up as you can, out of the range of motion. now, take off the nut.

                      you may even have enough room to get vice grips in there V
                      THANKS! Im looking at either KYB, KONI or TOKICO, either the NON-adjustable or adjustable... Just need to make sure it rides well enough and dosnt blow. Not sure on my drop but theres almost no wheel gap, mabey a finger or 2... Soo, 2.5" drop?

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                        #12
                        Looks like you need a new strut mount, bushings or otherwise



                        There is a visual of how its supposed to be.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Accrdwgnguy View Post
                          Looks like you need a new strut mount, bushings or otherwise



                          There is a visual of how its supposed to be.
                          Hey, thanks man. I didnt put the #14 washer on because the new spring tophat left to big of a gap and prevented the top of the strut (threaded part) from poking out... hmm...

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                            #14
                            yeah one goes below all the bushings and catches on that part of the shaft thats of thicker diameter. thats what keeps the bushings from going down the shaft as well as preventing the things from hitting ur hood like urs is.

                            u still need that big washer at the top too. u can actually do this with the suspension on the car or at least i changed all my bushings like that. although u said u cut the alan part off ... ull have to shave it flat so u can bite on with some vices idk wha else to tell ya other than hold the lower shaft with vices and hit the top with an impact. well good luck man

                            oh edit. and replace that collar in the picture too its done !!! its like 3-4$ from honda
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                              #15
                              Read this post this morning but couldn't see the pics at work.
                              That issue isn't the strut itself, There is something else wrong there.
                              I'll have to have a look at my old struts tommorow.
                              Definately not safe, as your obviously aware

                              Edit - Did you reassemble the top like this:
                              Because in your pic I cant see the "damper stop plug" (lower washer)
                              Last edited by evil_demon_01; 08-14-2009, 06:16 AM.


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