Opinions on RSR dampers

[blizzard335]

I need opinions on these:



RSR dampers, with RSR springs (dual springs). Used.

What's the purpose of the dual springs? The dude that's selling them has no clue at all.

They're for the CD, but will fit the CB (I'm running CD suspension at the moment too)

Anyone have experience on how they ride? Bumpy? Harsh? Pliant?

Thanks.

[civic_90_08]

I think it is to retain full shock travel.

Someone correct me if im wrong.

-Jordan

[blizzard335]

What's the effect on ride comfort?

I know that performance springs and dampers shouldnt be said in the same sentence with ride comfort, but the roads we have here arent very forgiving, moreso in a car 20 years old.

they are going for 600 bucks.

[slick]

600 used is kinda high if you ask me.

ask for comfort i didnt know rsr made actual coilovers i knew they had springs though

[blizzard335]

600 used is kinda high if you ask me.

ask for comfort i didnt know rsr made actual coilovers i knew they had springs though

well, that's the price we have to pay here for parts.

Used Teins fetch more than that. about 50 bucks more. but the condition isnt the best.

Yes, they are RSR coilovers and springs.

need input.

[Chirs190E16v]

i think the second spring is to add strength to the unit kinda like a jam nut so nothing moves. Or it should be some type of progressive spring soft at first and hard when you start compressing them alot

[Chirs190E16v]

Oh yeah if the spring can seat properly in the top seat. Than that means that its the wrong spring or some ebay spring. I would be careful of it as it could cause alignment problems and shacking. And it could be dangerous

[johnl]

i think the second spring is to add strength to the unit kinda like a jam nut so nothing moves. Or it should be some type of progressive spring soft at first and hard when you start compressing them alot

The secondary spring is extremely weak and it's only purpose is to prevent the primary spring from becoming loose at full damper (shock) extension. It has zero affect on spring rate because it's fully compressed until the damper is nearly at full extension (i.e. it contributes no 'progressiveness' to the spring rate).

[blizzard335]

Thanks John.

here's another set, and look how the secondaries are compressed.



So, any advantage/disadvantage? I dont know what the spring rates are, it's not written on the spring itself.

[lokuputha]

they look like 400lb+ springs...better hope the dampers are in good condition.

[ikayto]

"helper springs"

[johnl]

Thanks John.

here's another set, and look how the secondaries are compressed.

So, any advantage/disadvantage?

It's not a matter of advantage / disadvantage.

The secondary springs in that photograph are compressed simply because the bottom spring seats are adjusted to provide a relatively high ride height (i.e. more spring pre-load). In that state the secondary springs can only act as if they were solid spacers (increasing ride height).

Lower the bottom spring seats enough and the secondary springs will become partially uncompressed at full damper extension (suspension 'droop'), and the ride height will lower.

Note that altering the spring pre-load (i.e. raising / lowering bottom spring seat) does not affect the spring rate (as many people seem to think), all it does is raise or lower the ride height.

[johnl]

"helper springs"

Maybe, but that's a term I tend to associate with the additional springs you sometimes see inside the main spring with some heavy duty off-road 4WD suspensions...

[The G-Man]

Those other springs are there to keep the shorter springs from falling out of their seats when jacking the car up.

[slammed4thgen]

bliz im so glad you posted this, i was trying to come up with an idea to keep my springs in place so i can go even lower by adjusting the spring perches aswell as the shock mount...but without having to hold the springs in their seats.

can these "support springs" be purchased aftermarket there? or only with a full set?

im on the hunt for these now..