NA performance...

[john85020]

Is it possible for me 2 get my f22a engine to 200 hp usings bolt ons only. I dont want to invest in forged internals, i just want some extra power. If so what mods do you guys recomend. I have a 1990 Accord with 136K that has been well cared for its whole life by my dad. So far, i have a open air intake, and a muffler, which have given me moderate gains at best. If you couldnt tell im new to modding cars, im trying to get a feel for whats possible. Also, would a cold air intake make a difference over my 30 $ auto zone air filter?

-thanks, john

[ehulst]

search is your best friend ;its best to search before you post , but alot fo bolt ons dont give u much power maybe 20 all together depending on what u buy and how much u wanna spend, save your money invest in a good turbo set up or save more and swap an H into the beast.....like i said search you'll get all your answers man.......for your cold air yes it will, spend the cash on it, it allows colder air to come into the intake manifold increasing power, 3 HP or so, plus it sounds cool, sounds beefy and when u shut it off it sucks whats left in and u can really hear it, and peeopl are like whoa thats cool hehehe.........welcome

[halfazn]

Bolt ons only IMAO.....
good luck with that.....

bolt ons is a good start though from what I read, but you still need tuning, head upgrades ie. cam regrind, port and polish, milling, bigger throttle body, upgraded ignition with wires and plugs. That might get you close, Im new here too but all this is from what I have read here. Simple questions like this get you flamed. Youse the search feature its your best friend right now then when you have tried something and have problems a direct question would yeild better outcome as far as help is concerned.

This is a NA forum but yeah like he said you can always juice,boost, or swap

[ehulst]

crap i new its been a long night, N/A is best i totaly forgot this was N/A i figured it was performance topic since most newbies post there.......my bad..

[sulimed]

only way you'll get close to 200 hp NA.http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=26368

[Dirty Harry]

Is it possible for me 2 get my f22a engine to 200 hp usings bolt ons only. I dont want to invest in forged internals, i just want some extra power. If so what mods do you guys recomend. I have a 1990 Accord with 136K that has been well cared for its whole life by my dad. So far, i have a open air intake, and a muffler, which have given me moderate gains at best. If you couldnt tell im new to modding cars, im trying to get a feel for whats possible. Also, would a cold air intake make a difference over my 30 $ auto zone air filter?

-thanks, john

I just laughed so hard I almost puked

cha-ching

[halfazn]

....where did he get 200 from

[HondaFan81]

Is it possible for me 2 get my f22a engine to 200 hp usings bolt ons only. I dont want to invest in forged internals, i just want some extra power. If so what mods do you guys recomend. I have a 1990 Accord with 136K that has been well cared for its whole life by my dad. So far, i have a open air intake, and a muffler, which have given me moderate gains at best. If you couldnt tell im new to modding cars, im trying to get a feel for whats possible. Also, would a cold air intake make a difference over my 30 $ auto zone air filter?

-thanks, john

The best you could do to achieve them goals are intake, larger TB, ported intake manifold, extreme headwork, aggressive camshaft, header, exhaust, but your block will be asking for high-compression to tie it all in, so you will have to invest in internals, if you are not willing to do so.....you have to assist the engine using forced induction or these mods and nitrous, headswap with headwork on that and perhaps more aggressive camshafts for that head than you can get for a F22 head but you still would need some assistance by FI/nitrous...it just might get you closer is all.

[phatdoughnut]

john85020

Just so you know, my h22a achived 190whp with all those mods you listed.

[accrdpower]

there is sooo much MISINFORMATION here is sickens me.....the quick answer is no. u may be able to get 170hp with bolt-on's MAYBE. although if u search the net 180 is doable with bolt-on's. if u want the easy way out, turbo, nos, swap!!!!

but anywho, with all the bolt on's i wouldn't be surprised at 170hp. if u really want power, internals are gonna have to be upgraded. TB, IM, cam, valvetrain,head...and that is just the start of it.

just bc u can't get 200hp without some sort of thinking involved doesn't mean u abbanden the idea. if your sticking with f22 and u want to go NA, it's gonna take alot of research and time and money to get good power but in the end it will be insane and will gain u more respect than imaginable. listen to cisco, he's the pro at the NA scene.

[sonikaccord]

don't forget high comp pistons, underdrive pulleys, lightened flywheel, and lots and lots of stickers, lol j/k.

[Accord R33]

u may be able to get 170hp with bolt-on's MAYBE. although if u search the net 180 is doable with bolt-on's.

but anywho, with all the bolt on's i wouldn't be surprised at 170hp.

im gonna have to throw the BS flag on that one. there is no way in hell your gonna get 60-65whp from bolt ons.

if this setup can only make 176whp and 142tq, bolt ons are not going to do anything

Generic short ram
Extrude Hone A6 Manifold
50lb/hr injectors
Ferrera Valves
Crower Dual Valve Springs/Titanium Retainers
Delta Regrind
12.5 Wiseco Pistons
Crower Rods
Darton Sleeves
Kamikaze Header
AEM EMS tuned.

thats 93accords setup (sorry to use your setup in a somewhat negitive way, i have nothing but respect for your work)

[wlfpck]

u could stroke the engine up to 2.4 litres..... idk.... i came on the boards and asked the same question but my goal was 160 hp.

Basically i abandoned my idea already. I'm getting my h22 this spring break or summer. WOOT!

[accrdpower]

im gonna have to throw the BS flag on that one. there is no way in hell your gonna get 60-65whp from bolt ons.

if this setup can only make 176whp and 142tq, bolt ons are not going to do anything

Generic short ram
Extrude Hone A6 Manifold
50lb/hr injectors
Ferrera Valves
Crower Dual Valve Springs/Titanium Retainers
Delta Regrind
12.5 Wiseco Pistons
Crower Rods
Darton Sleeves
Kamikaze Header
AEM EMS tuned.

thats 93accords setup (sorry to use your setup in a somewhat negitive way, i have nothing but respect for your work)

i never said anything bout 60-65WHP i meant crank.....but yea to get from 135-170/180hp is only like 35-45hp gain which is easy as hell with all the bolt on's....pulley sey=6-10, full exhaust=10, intake 3-5, ignition system+fuel system=5-7hp, coolant system/cam gear/TB/ground wires/few other mods can get u another 5hp or so. this is just the tip of the iceburg too......put on a head package/TB/IM and your talking up to a 230WHP f22......ask cisco he has led me to the info.....